Sorry Russ, but *"Nobody should be above the law if the rule of law has any meaning in a democratic society,"* is an absurd idea.
Assuming the US is a democratic society (in some sense), I would defy you to find any existing law that does not have exceptions that place someone, in some role or in some cirsumstance, "above" that law. davew On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, at 8:58 AM, John Kennison wrote: > > > > *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Marcus Daniels > <mar...@snoutfarm.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2024 3:02 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>; > russ.abb...@gmail.com <russ.abb...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* [EXT] Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance > > I don’t think that’s fair. It depends on the opponent and what they > represent both in terms of ideology and the sociological phenomenon they are > a part of. > > > > *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2024 11:52 AM > *To:* russ.abb...@gmail.com; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee > Group <friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance > > > > A president who murders his opponents would not be better than an evil > dictator in an authoritarian state. Putin's opponents like Navalny, > Litvinenko and Nemtsov were all brutally poisoned and/or murdered. > > > > But you are right, this possibility exists after the recent decision of the > supreme court. It seems to be a result of democratic backsliding. Nobody > should be above the law if the rule of law has any meaning in a democratic > society. > > > > -J. > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Russ Abbott <russ.abb...@gmail.com> > > Date: 7/16/24 7:48 PM (GMT+01:00) > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance > > > > Why has no one pointed out the possibility that if Trump wins, Biden could > take advantage of his newly declared immunity and have him assassinated? > > > > -- Russ > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2024, 6:24 AM glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Yeah. It's one thing to wish it or want it. It's another to think more in >> Marcus' terms and come up with a more complex strategy not involving stupid >> 20 year olds and no violence at all. I still hold out hope for my own >> personal conspiracy theory. Biden becomes the nominee. After the convention >> fades, the Admnistration announces Biden has gone to the hospital for bone >> spur surgery. Kamala takes over temporarily and campaigns furiously for >> Biden-Harris. Biden is re-elected. Biden recovers and gets through the Oath >> (fingers crossed). Then he goes back to the hospital with some minor thing >> like a dizzy spell. Kamala takes over again. Biden's condition worsens. >> First Female President. Biden recovers and becomes America's Grandpa. >> >> Come on Deep State. Make it happen. 8^D >> >> On 7/15/24 17:30, Russ Abbott wrote: >> > I wonder what Scott's response would have been to those of us who, in >> > response to the shooting, thought: better luck next time. >> > On 7/15/24 17:28, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> >> It ignores the option of doing things quietly and indirectly. >> >> On 7/15/24 16:46, glen wrote: >> >>> [Scott's] Prayer >> >>> https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=8117 >> >>> >> >>> I'm currently surrounded by people who believe intolerance is properly >> >>> not tolerated. Scott's message, here, seems extraordinary Christian, to >> >>> me. (Real Christian, not the Christianism displayed in things like >> >>> megachurches and whatnot cf >> >>> https://raymondsmullyan.com/books/who-knows/). This faith that "going >> >>> high" will, in the long run, win out, seems naive to me. The temptation >> >>> to "hoist the black flag and start slitting throats" isn't merely a >> >>> thresholded reaction, it's an intuitive grasp of the iterated prisoner's >> >>> dilemma, tit-for-tat style strategies, and Ashby's LoRV. But I'm open to >> >>> changing my mind on that. Maybe I'm just too low-brow? >> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ >> >> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: 5/2017 thru present >> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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