The Q&A was interesting:  
http://www.brown-recluse.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/3/1/Spider_Identification_Forum.html

And now I feel small skin agitations, like there are tiny spiders crawling on 
me.

Yay.

Tyler

On Oct 11, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Alison Jones wrote:

> Yes, Carl, black widows are widespread this year, lots downtown. For all you 
> folks who frequent The Complex know that there are several webs around the 
> steps on both sides of the building. The last time I was there I noticed one 
> had made its web INSIDE the front door. Roy if you are reading this please go 
> step on it!
> 
> I am concerned about the brown recluse, especially when the kids are playing 
> hide and seek. Good to know you've only seen three.
> 
> Alison
> 
> On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:
> 
>> One should mention that in 13 years living here I've only seen 3 recluses, 
>> and those not in the same year.
>> 
>> Black Widows, however, are a commodity item.  Fortunately they're more 
>> brazen and thus much easier to avoid.
>> 
>> On 10/11/10 12:16 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pamela,
>>> 
>>>   
>>> I stand corrected and warned.
>>> 
>>>   
>>> Given that the Hospital here is such a mixed bag, I wonder if the 
>>> collective wisdom of this list might produce a “spider bite center” in the 
>>> country which one could call into if needed.  I am terrified for the 
>>> children.  What did the healer do?  Does your techie still have his hand?  
>>> I found the loving descriptions of progressive necrosis on the web 
>>> particularly alarming. 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> Nick
>>> 
>>>   
>>> From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck
>>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:02 AM
>>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider
>>> 
>>>   
>>> One of my computer techies was bitten by a brown recluse in El Dorado. All 
>>> the rest is true--no help from the hospital, a wound that grew and grew. 
>>> Finally he found a local folk healer who helped. He was very skeptical but 
>>> by then desperate. I've been banging my open hand first against anything I 
>>> needed to probe into, from the wires behind my computer (which is where his 
>>> was lurking) to the woodpile, to... They are shy and would rather run away, 
>>> but if startled, will bite.
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   
>>>   
>>>   
>>> On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carl, it never occurred to me to confide in my spiders.  I will reconsider 
>>> that policy on your recommendation.
>>> 
>>>   
>>> According to my books, the brown recluse doesn’t make it beyond the 100th 
>>> meridian (blood or otherwise).  She has a local cousin, “desert recluse” or 
>>> some such whose bite is not a problem.
>>> 
>>>   
>>> What I learned from the brief reading on the I-net and elsewhere is that 
>>> there are no medical miracles to deal with these bites.  I had always 
>>> assumed I would rush down to St. Vincents, and if I got there soon enough, 
>>> they would give me a shot, and that would be the end of it.  Apparently not 
>>> so. Particularly if children are bitten. 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> Nick
>>> 
>>>   
>>> From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Carl Tollander
>>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:23 PM
>>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider
>>> 
>>>   
>>> Black Widows - Shiny long legs, hourglass on back - worry some, as they can 
>>> get agressive and the bites are persistently painful.  Ubiquitous and the 
>>> big one's can be resilient against 2x4's.  They make more.  Lots more.
>>> Brown Recluse - All brown, hides in slight creases on a newspaper - worry 
>>> more due to cellular toxins.
>>> Wolf - Short legs, big body - not so much worry, just don't mess with it.  
>>> They do bite, but they keep to themselves unless molested.   I call the one 
>>> over my front door "Kong".   From the description, probably what you have.
>>> Everything else, leave 'em be, they're beneficial, bites not fun but not 
>>> dangerous, probably.   Good listeners.
>>> 
>>> On 10/8/10 7:59 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hoping there's someone on this list that knows something about spiders in 
>>> New Mexico... There were two of these hanging out just on the outside of my 
>>> house in Santa Fe.  One had made a large somewhat circular web about 2 ft 
>>> across.  At night it would sit in the middle, during the day it would hide 
>>> in a corner.  You can get an idea of the size from the tines of the dining 
>>> fork.   I think they are big.   I've not yet been successful in finding 
>>> anything online that seems to come any where close.  Any ideas on what type 
>>> it is, should I be worried? 
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you'd like a higher res. image. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Robert C 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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