Dapsone has been used, but it has significant toxicity:  
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/772295-overview  Need to make sure there 
is no G-6-PD deficiency.

Russ#3
On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote:

> I don't remember now what the healer did. But my techie has a good-sized 
> white spot on his arm where the spider bit. 
> 
> I think you need not worry overmuch. They really are *recluses.* They wish to 
> be away from humans.
> 
> 
> On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> 
>> Pamela,
>>  
>> I stand corrected and warned.
>>  
>> Given that the Hospital here is such a mixed bag, I wonder if the collective 
>> wisdom of this list might produce a “spider bite center” in the country 
>> which one could call into if needed.  I am terrified for the children.  What 
>> did the healer do?  Does your techie still have his hand?  I found the 
>> loving descriptions of progressive necrosis on the web particularly 
>> alarming. 
>>  
>> Nick
>>  
>> From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Pamela McCorduck
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:02 AM
>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider
>>  
>> One of my computer techies was bitten by a brown recluse in El Dorado. All 
>> the rest is true--no help from the hospital, a wound that grew and grew. 
>> Finally he found a local folk healer who helped. He was very skeptical but 
>> by then desperate. I've been banging my open hand first against anything I 
>> needed to probe into, from the wires behind my computer (which is where his 
>> was lurking) to the woodpile, to... They are shy and would rather run away, 
>> but if startled, will bite.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Carl, it never occurred to me to confide in my spiders.  I will reconsider 
>> that policy on your recommendation.
>>  
>> According to my books, the brown recluse doesn’t make it beyond the 100th 
>> meridian (blood or otherwise).  She has a local cousin, “desert recluse” or 
>> some such whose bite is not a problem.
>>  
>> What I learned from the brief reading on the I-net and elsewhere is that 
>> there are no medical miracles to deal with these bites.  I had always 
>> assumed I would rush down to St. Vincents, and if I got there soon enough, 
>> they would give me a shot, and that would be the end of it.  Apparently not 
>> so. Particularly if children are bitten. 
>>  
>> Nick
>>  
>> From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Carl Tollander
>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:23 PM
>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider
>>  
>> Black Widows - Shiny long legs, hourglass on back - worry some, as they can 
>> get agressive and the bites are persistently painful.  Ubiquitous and the 
>> big one's can be resilient against 2x4's.  They make more.  Lots more.
>> Brown Recluse - All brown, hides in slight creases on a newspaper - worry 
>> more due to cellular toxins.
>> Wolf - Short legs, big body - not so much worry, just don't mess with it.  
>> They do bite, but they keep to themselves unless molested.   I call the one 
>> over my front door "Kong".   From the description, probably what you have.
>> Everything else, leave 'em be, they're beneficial, bites not fun but not 
>> dangerous, probably.   Good listeners.
>> 
>> On 10/8/10 7:59 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:
>>   Hoping there's someone on this list that knows something about spiders in 
>> New Mexico... There were two of these hanging out just on the outside of my 
>> house in Santa Fe.  One had made a large somewhat circular web about 2 ft 
>> across.  At night it would sit in the middle, during the day it would hide 
>> in a corner.  You can get an idea of the size from the tines of the dining 
>> fork.   I think they are big.   I've not yet been successful in finding 
>> anything online that seems to come any where close.  Any ideas on what type 
>> it is, should I be worried? 
>> 
>> Let me know if you'd like a higher res. image. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> Robert C 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> "How quickly weeks glide away in such a city as New York, especially when you 
> reckon among your friends some of the most agreeable people in either 
> hemisphere."
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