I used to live in Wichita, Ks. and my house was infested with brown's.

I once got bitten on the inside of my arm and it quickly started looking 
"scary".

A trip to the minor emergency center and a steroid shot was all that I needed.

Other's people's mileage will vary, of course, based on their physiology.

On Oct 11, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

> Pamela,
>  
> I stand corrected and warned.
>  
> Given that the Hospital here is such a mixed bag, I wonder if the collective 
> wisdom of this list might produce a “spider bite center” in the country which 
> one could call into if needed.  I am terrified for the children.  What did 
> the healer do?  Does your techie still have his hand?  I found the loving 
> descriptions of progressive necrosis on the web particularly alarming. 
>  
> Nick
>  
> From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf 
> Of Pamela McCorduck
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:02 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider
>  
> One of my computer techies was bitten by a brown recluse in El Dorado. All 
> the rest is true--no help from the hospital, a wound that grew and grew. 
> Finally he found a local folk healer who helped. He was very skeptical but by 
> then desperate. I've been banging my open hand first against anything I 
> needed to probe into, from the wires behind my computer (which is where his 
> was lurking) to the woodpile, to... They are shy and would rather run away, 
> but if startled, will bite.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> 
> 
> Carl, it never occurred to me to confide in my spiders.  I will reconsider 
> that policy on your recommendation.
>  
> According to my books, the brown recluse doesn’t make it beyond the 100th 
> meridian (blood or otherwise).  She has a local cousin, “desert recluse” or 
> some such whose bite is not a problem.
>  
> What I learned from the brief reading on the I-net and elsewhere is that 
> there are no medical miracles to deal with these bites.  I had always assumed 
> I would rush down to St. Vincents, and if I got there soon enough, they would 
> give me a shot, and that would be the end of it.  Apparently not so. 
> Particularly if children are bitten. 
>  
> Nick
>  
> From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf 
> Of Carl Tollander
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:23 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider
>  
> Black Widows - Shiny long legs, hourglass on back - worry some, as they can 
> get agressive and the bites are persistently painful.  Ubiquitous and the big 
> one's can be resilient against 2x4's.  They make more.  Lots more.
> Brown Recluse - All brown, hides in slight creases on a newspaper - worry 
> more due to cellular toxins.
> Wolf - Short legs, big body - not so much worry, just don't mess with it.  
> They do bite, but they keep to themselves unless molested.   I call the one 
> over my front door "Kong".   From the description, probably what you have.
> Everything else, leave 'em be, they're beneficial, bites not fun but not 
> dangerous, probably.   Good listeners.
> 
> On 10/8/10 7:59 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:
>   Hoping there's someone on this list that knows something about spiders in 
> New Mexico... There were two of these hanging out just on the outside of my 
> house in Santa Fe.  One had made a large somewhat circular web about 2 ft 
> across.  At night it would sit in the middle, during the day it would hide in 
> a corner.  You can get an idea of the size from the tines of the dining fork. 
>   I think they are big.   I've not yet been successful in finding anything 
> online that seems to come any where close.  Any ideas on what type it is, 
> should I be worried? 
> 
> Let me know if you'd like a higher res. image. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Robert C 
> 
> 
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