Pamela,
I stand corrected and warned. Given that the Hospital here is such a mixed bag, I wonder if the collective wisdom of this list might produce a "spider bite center" in the country which one could call into if needed. I am terrified for the children. What did the healer do? Does your techie still have his hand? I found the loving descriptions of progressive necrosis on the web particularly alarming. Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:02 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider One of my computer techies was bitten by a brown recluse in El Dorado. All the rest is true--no help from the hospital, a wound that grew and grew. Finally he found a local folk healer who helped. He was very skeptical but by then desperate. I've been banging my open hand first against anything I needed to probe into, from the wires behind my computer (which is where his was lurking) to the woodpile, to... They are shy and would rather run away, but if startled, will bite. On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Carl, it never occurred to me to confide in my spiders. I will reconsider that policy on your recommendation. According to my books, the brown recluse doesn't make it beyond the 100th meridian (blood or otherwise). She has a local cousin, "desert recluse" or some such whose bite is not a problem. What I learned from the brief reading on the I-net and elsewhere is that there are no medical miracles to deal with these bites. I had always assumed I would rush down to St. Vincents, and if I got there soon enough, they would give me a shot, and that would be the end of it. Apparently not so. Particularly if children are bitten. Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Carl Tollander Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:23 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider Black Widows - Shiny long legs, hourglass on back - worry some, as they can get agressive and the bites are persistently painful. Ubiquitous and the big one's can be resilient against 2x4's. They make more. Lots more. Brown Recluse - All brown, hides in slight creases on a newspaper - worry more due to cellular toxins. Wolf - Short legs, big body - not so much worry, just don't mess with it. They do bite, but they keep to themselves unless molested. I call the one over my front door "Kong". From the description, probably what you have. Everything else, leave 'em be, they're beneficial, bites not fun but not dangerous, probably. Good listeners. On 10/8/10 7:59 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote: Hoping there's someone on this list that knows something about spiders in New Mexico... There were two of these hanging out just on the outside of my house in Santa Fe. One had made a large somewhat circular web about 2 ft across. At night it would sit in the middle, during the day it would hide in a corner. You can get an idea of the size from the tines of the dining fork. I think they are big. I've not yet been successful in finding anything online that seems to come any where close. Any ideas on what type it is, should I be worried? Let me know if you'd like a higher res. image. Thanks, Robert C ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org "How quickly weeks glide away in such a city as New York, especially when you reckon among your friends some of the most agreeable people in either hemisphere." Fanny Trollope, "Domestic Manners of the Americans"
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