And the Vikings. Mustn't forget the Vikings -- Robert On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Robert Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> IMHO, the notion that europeans are "relative newcomers to the conversation > about race" is just plain silly. The UK has been colonized by the Romans, > the Jutes, the Angles, the Saxons and the French. We've been having > conversations about race for a *very* long time. > > Robert > > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Owen Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Just to let Doug know the US is not the only bastion of idiots: >> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96949439 >> Bigotry, apparently, is not uncommon in Europe. >> >> I was surprised by Julian Bond's statement. He's both insightful and >> knowledgeable. >> "The big difference here is that the United States has been thinking >> about and dealing with race since we were founded. These countries in Europe >> are relative newcomers to the conversation about race. They are much less >> familiar with confronting their own bigotry." Bond adds, "I have always >> thought that European countries are more bigoted than the U.S." >> >> I recall considering leaving the US after Bush was elected. I thought >> about the problems I'd seen in Italy and elsewhere, and decided that there >> just might be as many problems outside the Bubba infested US as in. >> >> I think of Europe as being more sophisticated, certainly in lifestyle. >> But then my sampling is biased. But if I think of my friends here, I see >> the same sophistication. Hard for me to say if Bond has it right. >> >> I'd be interested in our European Friamers observations. >> >> -- Owen >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > >
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