IMHO, the notion that europeans are "relative newcomers to the conversation
about race" is just plain silly. The UK has been colonized by the Romans,
the Jutes, the Angles, the Saxons and the French. We've been having
conversations about race for a *very* long time.

Robert



On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Owen Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just to let Doug know the US is not the only bastion of idiots:
>  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96949439
> Bigotry, apparently, is not uncommon in Europe.
>
> I was surprised by Julian Bond's statement.  He's both insightful and
> knowledgeable.
>    "The big difference here is that the United States has been thinking
> about and dealing with race since we were founded. These countries in Europe
> are relative newcomers to the conversation about race. They are much less
> familiar with confronting their own bigotry."  Bond adds, "I have always
> thought that European countries are more bigoted than the U.S."
>
> I recall considering leaving the US after Bush was elected.  I thought
> about the problems I'd seen in Italy and elsewhere, and decided that there
> just might be as many problems outside the Bubba infested US as in.
>
> I think of Europe as being more sophisticated, certainly in lifestyle.  But
> then my sampling is biased.  But if I think of my friends here, I see the
> same sophistication.  Hard for me to say if Bond has it right.
>
> I'd be interested in our European Friamers observations.
>
>    -- Owen
>
>
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