Hello Bruce,

I am still waiting on your response or Lilla's. Thank you.
Best,
Paul

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Paul
>
> I was waiting for Lilla to respond :)
> Bruce
>
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017, miracle ozzoude wrote:
>
> Hello Bruce,
>>
>> I wasn't sure if you answered my previous message hence, I'm sending it
>> again. Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>> Paul
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: miracle ozzoude <miracoo...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] cortical/subcortical volume based analysis
>> To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>
>>
>> Hello Bruce,
>> Thank you for the response. I was able to look into CVS command and I
>> wrote a command on how to
>> register each subjects to cvs_avg35_inMNI152 template using the
>> following: mri_cvs_register --mov
>> subID --mni /Application/freesurfer/subjects/cvs_avg35_inMNI152/T1.mgz
>> --step1 --step2 --step3
>> --outdir  $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subID/cvs  --asegfname aparc+aseg --openmp 8. Do
>> i need to use the T1 in
>> the mri folder or mri.2mm folder when performing mri_cvs_register?
>>
>> My next goals are to:
>> 1) sample the volumes created using mri_cvs_register to the
>> cvs_avg35_inMNI152 template using
>> mri_vol2vol -reg .
>>     -which of the outputs from mri_cvs_register should i use
>> to 
>> achieve?final_CVSmorphed_toTEMPLATE_norm.mgz,final_CVSmorph_toTEMPLATE.m3z,
>> or
>> final_CVSmorphed_toTEMPLATE_aseg.mgz
>> 2)Use a cortical+subcortical mask from cvs_avg35_inMNI152 to smooth the
>> output from mri_vol2vol.
>>       - How can I create the cortical mask from the
>> cvs_avg35_inMNI152/mri.2mm folder? This is
>> because the folder already has a subcortical mask and I want to create a
>> cortical mask, combine both
>> (using mri_merge) and use it to smooth with 8mm.
>>
>> 3) Lastly, use mri_concat to combine the smoothened maps in order to
>> perform group level analysis on
>> them.
>>       - when performing mri_glmfit on the combined maps, i don't need to
>> specify the --surf
>> fsaverage and lh/rh flags because it is a volume based analysis and it
>> was done on MNI template not
>> fsaverage?
>>
>> Thank you very much
>>
>> Best,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Bruce Fischl <
>> fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>       Hi Paul
>>
>>       I guess you could use CVS for this.
>>
>>       cheers
>>       Bruce
>>       On Sat, 14 Oct 2017, miracle ozzoude wrote:
>>
>>             Hello Bruce,
>>
>>             Thank you very much. Can I still general cortical and
>> subcortical maps with
>>             the Spherical warp of r/lh.white surface?  If yes, please
>> what are the steps
>>             to achieve this? can I still analyze it with mri_glm?
>>
>>             Best,
>>             Paul
>>
>>             Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>>               Original Message
>>             From: Bruce Fischl
>>             Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:27 AM
>>             To: Freesurfer support list
>>             Reply To: Freesurfer support list
>>             Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] cortical/subcortical volume based
>> analysis
>>
>>             Hi Paul
>>
>>             if you use a property (like gm) to drive intersubject
>> registration it then
>>             becomes difficult to also analyze it. If your warp was truly
>> perfect you
>>             could just analyze the properties of the warp, but even then
>> it is hard to
>>             localize effects (e.g. if you changed the smoothness of the
>> warp field
>>             would the effect move somewhere else?). If the warp is not
>> perfect then
>>             some of the effect is in your warp and some in the residual
>> anatomical
>>             differences. There are lots of caveats like this you have to
>> worry about.
>>             It's the reason we drive our spherical warp with the ?h.white
>> surface. It
>>             is invariant to gm atrophy and so can be used to assess it
>> without worrying
>>             about this kind of thing
>>
>>             cheers
>>             Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>>             On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, miracle ozzoude wrote:
>>
>>                   Hello Bruce,
>>
>>                   Thank you for the response. I meant the latter ( making
>> maps
>>                   etc). I want to do something similar to the subcortical
>> volume
>>                   based analysis on PETSurfer page however, on freesurfer
>> T1.
>>                   Freesurfer doesn't perform VBM hence, why should there
>> be a
>>                   problem with interpretation?
>>
>>                   Best,
>>                   Miracle
>>
>>                   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>>                     Original Message
>>                   From: Bruce Fischl
>>                   Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 6:53 PM
>>                   To: Freesurfer support list
>>                   Reply To: Freesurfer support list
>>                   Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] cortical/subcortical volume
>> based
>>                   analysis
>>
>>                   Hi Paul
>>
>>                   we typically do this type of analysis by looking at
>> scatter
>>                   plots of
>>                   structure volumes (e.g. hippocampus). Alternatively,
>> you can
>>                   make maps,
>>                   but that opens up all the problems/difficulties of
>>                   interpretation of VBM.
>>                   Which did you mean?
>>                   cheers
>>                   Bruce
>>
>>                   On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, miracle ozzoude wrote:
>>
>>                         Hello FreeSurfer experts,
>>                         I want to perform a whole brain volume based group
>>                         analysis for cortical and subcortical regions.
>>                         That's something very similar to surface based
>> group
>>                         analysis for cortical thickness however, for
>>                         volume. Is there a tutorial on how to do it? if
>> yes,
>>                         please can i get the link. If not, please can
>>                         someone direct me how to go about doing it? My
>> goal
>>                         is to perform a group comparison between control
>>                         and PD patients based on volume. Thank you very
>>                         much.
>>
>>                         Best,
>>                         Paul
>>
>>
>>
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