>     >     1) In a design with group and gender as discrete factors and age
>>     >     as a continuous factor, why is it that QDEC only displays the
>>     >     contrast "Does the avg thickness, accounting for gender, differ
>>     >     between group1 and group2?" and not also "..acounting for gender
>>     >     and age,.."?
>>     >
>>     I thought that it would have. Are you coding age as a nuisance
>>     variable?
>>     Also, are you coding gender as a continuous variable? That is
>>     something
>>     you should not do.
>>
>>
>> I was not coding age as a nuisance variable but as a continuous variable
>> (co-variate). Gender was a discrete/fixed factor but I'm not sure whether
>> this means 'continuous' in the sense discussed in your exchange with Arman.
>> Anyway, in this configuration, it seems gender and age are not accounted
>> (controlled) for at the same time.
>>
> It should be. Can you send your qdec table?

See attached


>
>
>>     >     3) From the group tutorial, I see that mris_preproc has to be
>>     >     called with flag "--cache-in ess.fwhm10thickn.fsaverage".
>>     However,
>>     >     after running recon-all (including with the –qcache option)
>>     on all
>>     >     my subjects, none of their folders contains a file named
>>     >     ?h.thickness.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
>>     >
>>     Where does it say to use ess.fwhm10thickn.fsaverage?
>>
>> Sorry, typo. The flag is actually "--cache-in
>> thickness.fwhm10.fsaverage", I file that I do not have after having run
>> recon-all (including with the --qcache option)
>>
> Try running recon-all again with just the --qcache flag.

This is what I had done previously; the command was:
recon-all -s C${i} -qcache
where the ${i} was a counter in a script, to run the command on all my
subjects


>
>
>>     >     5) What is the difference between running
>>     make_average_subject and
>>     >     running mris_preproc with --target fsaverage?
>>     >
>>     make average subject makes the average subject. mris_preproc
>>     samples the
>>     data into a common space defined by the registration surface and
>>     concatenates the input subjects into a single stack.
>>
>> But should the registration surface used by mris_preproc (i.e. its
>> "--target" flag) come from the 'average' subject or from 'fsaverage'? In
>> other words, which one of these becomes the study-specific template?
>>
> You have to tell mris_preproc both the target and the surface registration
> to use if you  want to use a different average subject.

The command I used is:

mris_preproc --fsgd group_gender__age.fsgd --target average --hemi rh
--meas thickness --out rh.thickness.mgh
So if I understand correctly, the fact that I didn't indicate a surface
registration means that the surface from the "average" subject will be
used, rather than the one from "fsaverage"? I still don't understand the
difference between those two, and which, if any, can be referred to as the
study-specific template.

B) All concatenated volumes from mris_preproc's output files
>> (?h.thickness.mgh) appear blank in freeview, even though the individual
>> structurals all look fine. Also, lh.thickness.mgh and rh.thickness.mgh
>> have, surprisingly, *exactly* the same file size, which is also a bit small
>> (~25MB) to be able to contain 38 registered structurals, which suggests
>> something went wrong...
>>
> These are surface overlay files, not volumes. You can't load surfaces as
> volumes in freeview.
>
So assuming I don't visually inspect the surface overlays, can I assume
that mris_preproc ran fine if lh.thickness.mgh and rh.thickness.mgh have
exactly the same file size?



>  C) When running mri_surf2surf, I get an error saying that file
>> /surf/lh.white cannot be opened. The 'average' folder produced after I ran
>> make_average_subject does not contain a /surf/lh.white file, only a
>> /surf/lh.white_avg file! I didn’t find a log file from make_average_subject
>> so i don’t know if it gave any errors..
>>
> It's extremely helpful to have command lines ...
>

Sorry, my commands were:
make_average_subject --subjects C01 C02 C03 C04 C05 C06 C07 C08 C09 C10 C11
C12 C13 C14 C15 C16 C17 C18 C19 M01 M02 M03 M04 M05 M06 M07 M08 M09 M10 M11
M12 M13 M14 M15 M16 M17 M18 M19
mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --s average --sval lh.thickness.mgh --fwhm 10
--tval lh.thickness.10.mgh
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Could someone please explain how the following descriptions of a contrast
are exactly linked:
i) a contrast's namesake folder (including keywords 'Avg'/'Diff'/'X' and
'Intercept'/'Cor'; e.g.
"lh-Diff-group1-group2-Cor-thickness-behaviouralMeasure"),
ii) its phrasing in QDEC ("Does the thickness-age correlation differ
between group1 and group2?"),
iii) the assignment of values to each column of the design matrix, in the
C.dat contrast vector (e.g. [0, 0, 1, -1])

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(this is actually a bug report) After setting a different FDR threshold and
pressing the "Set Using FDR" button, more often than not the results image
doesn’t change accordingly. I noticed that the button only has an effect
after moving around the QDEC window and/or waiting a minute or so

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