On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Hordur Thordarson <hor...@lausn.is> wrote:

> Well, I got the feeling that some users on this list were advocating a
> total rewrite asap rather than maintaining and improving the current
> codebase.  A new Flex framework, built in Haxe or some other language than
> AS3/MXML is a totally new framework that will have no support for the
> current codebase, which means I'm either stuck with the current technology
> or I have to rewrite all my stuff and unfortunately rewrites
> just-for-the-fun-of-it are hard to sell to clients.
>
> I agree that the strategy should be maintain and enhance the current
> framework while planning/preparing for the future.
>
> Yes, unfortunately Steve Jobs managed to kill Flash in mobile browsers
> (ok, other things contributed as well :-), so I can't deploy to Flash
> player in mobile browsers, but AIR is a perfectly usable solution to that
> problem so I can easily deploy to an app for Android/iOS with the same code
> base.
>

Yes, rewrites just for the fun of it are impracticable, but betting on the
long term future of Flex as a multi-platform technology on a closed source
runtime such as Adobe AIR is a huge gamble. They could do a 180 on their
views of AIR next November. Then what?


>
> > "writing yet another Gui framework on top of HTML/JS/CSS"
> > Noone is proposing such a thing.
> > Flex needs to be cross platform and with OOP language.
>
> I didn't mean that a new Flex would be written IN Html/Js/Css.  But some
> see the solution to the Adobe VM dependency being to deploy to Html/Js/Css,
> generated by Haxe or some other tool.  I don't, not because there is
> anything wrong with Haxe or whatever other tool would be used, but simply
> because HTML5 still has years to go before it can support the data-rich
> apps that Flex in Flash player/AIR excels at, and that can't be fixed at
> the compiler level because in the end you just get Html/Js/Css that the
> browser executes, with all the plusses and minuses that come with that
> technology stack.
>
>
This view is a little narrow minded. I would say apps like Gmail are pretty
data-rich, and it runs great. I don't believe that HTML5 needs years before
it is viable for data-rich applications, that is happening now. Granted
there are technical capabilities that are yet to arrive in HTML5, but I
don't expect it to be years before its completely caught up with Flash
Player's capabilities that are commonly exploited in Flash/Flex
applications. To put off looking at targeting HTML/JS/CSS would be a bad
mistake for this framework, in my humble opinion.

-omar

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