On 01/31/2016 03:07 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
indeed, i should have clearly stated that i applied the pal8
patches with the plan to use pal8 only when neccessary.
I had asked you to implement exactly that but it seemed you didnt
know how to do that cleanly and simply so i thought "no problem,
i know how to do that, ill do it"
i had not expected this to be controversal


Well, it would have been nice to know that you did it at least. I had no idea until you mentioned it.

basically 100% of avis with monowhite are black&white, we do not have
a single (no craftet) sample that contains paletted monochrome data
in avi.
IMHO its bizare to convert black and white 1 bpp data in the decoder
to 8bit paletted data
we reject colorspace/pixel format converting in the decoder normally
unless its somehow a mess otherwise.

and its a problem to for using the output because an encoder has to
deal and encode 8bit paletted data from such avis even though they
really are just black and white if pal8 is used


It's not bizarre at all. Black & white is just a variant of palettized data in this context, it's not monochrome. And just because you don't have a non-b/w sample, it doesn't mean you should use monow. A 1 bpp AVI is not monochrome once again, it's palettized, even if it's only with black & white. The same semantics as with 1 bpp depth in QuickTime.

And since you don't have a "pal2" or "pal4" format, it suddenly seems perfectly OK to convert this to pal8? THere's no logic in this.

Mats


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