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I am not conversant with your system or definitions. All I am asserting is 
that we believe we are conscious, or shall we say we have a property called 
"consciousness", but are unable to define exactly (or even approximately?) 
what it is. Hence, if we encounter a humanoid-type robot that can verbally 
respond or interact with us, even in the form of a black box, we lack any 
criteria for determining IF it is conscious. But the movie offers a hint of 
what to look for. At first I thought it was the concept of time, but that's 
wrong. The entity in question could have been supplied with a clock and 
thus could respond as if the concept of time exists; present, past and 
future. But that's insufficient to qualify for being "conscious". You 
should view the movie and see what it suggests to you. AG

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> I think Ex Machina provides an answer of what we need to look for. Please 
> view it and report back. But do NOT read the plot, say in Wiki. It's a 
> spoiler. AG
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> Can we find it on Youtube or similar?
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