On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 5:45:55 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote:
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> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:40 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected] 
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>> On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 4:10:12 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote:
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>>> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 10:39:20 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote:
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>>>>>>>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjCytqku18M 
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>>>> That was interesting. Data has consciousness or doesn't. It's like 
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>>> So what would you say to data, if he existed? That you're not conscious 
>>> because every other conscious being that we know of is biological?
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>>>> All examples of consciousness we have exist in living objects. (Us, for 
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>>> True but that's not evidence
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>>>> Can something be a conscious object but not a living object?
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>>> Depending on your definition of life, yes, I think so.
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>> I was only just reading about Data's positronic technology. If 
>> positronics is like biopolymers being used to make synthetic neurons today, 
>> then Data could be conscious.
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>> A non-living conscious being seems like a contradiction. I don't think 
>> Data would be both conscious and non-living. Data would be an example of 
>> life made of alternative biochemistry.
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> Life usually embodies aspects such as reproduction, metabolism, etc.  A 
> mars rover or a Boltzmann brain would not meet the definition of alive, but 
> could be conscious.
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> Jason
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So you read the synthetic biology technology literature? Living things are 
being made in labs today.

*Engineering Microbial Living Therapeutics: The Synthetic Biology Toolbox*

https://www.cell.com/trends/biotechnology/fulltext/S0167-7799(18)30258-0


Living therapeutics have been engineered to diagnose diseases and produce 
and deliver therapeutics in situ. These therapeutics can be equipped with 
devices for sensing inputs, controlling gene expression, building memory, 
and producing and delivering an active compound. Ingenious devices 
responding to stress, temperature, quorum-sensing signals, and other small 
molecules have been built to control the production and delivery of 
therapeutic molecules. To deal with biosafety, some living therapeutics 
carry biocontainment devices based on cell auxotrophy, 
temperature-sensitive regulators, and toxin/antitoxin counteraction. Recent 
advances in synthetic biology greatly expanded the toolbox for engineering 
living therapeutics; however, new parts are still needed to help synthetic 
biologists engineer more diverse and fully functional living therapeutics. 
Microbes can be engineered to act like living therapeutics designed to 
perform specific actions in the human body. From fighting and preventing 
infections to eliminating tumors and treating metabolic disorders, 
engineered living systems are the next generation of therapeutics. In 
recent years, synthetic biologists have greatly expanded the genetic 
toolbox for microbial living therapeutics, adding sensors, regulators, 
memory circuits, delivery devices, and kill switches. These advances have 
paved the way for successful engineering of fully functional living 
therapeutics, with sensing, production, and biocontainment devices. 
However, some important tools are still missing from the box. In this 
review, we cover the most recent biological parts and approaches developed 
and describe the missing tools needed to build robust living therapeutics.

@philipthrift 

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