On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 6:06:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 20 May 2019, at 10:32, Philip Thrift <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > But I claim that no zillion-processor Intel Core computer (that ultimately > runs programs compiled to Intel machine code) can be conscious. I also > claim God does not exist. > > > Which God? > > > > It is this context that [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room ] is > correct. > > "The Chinese room argument holds that an executing program cannot [have] > consciousness, regardless of how intelligently or human-like the program > may make the computer behave.” > > > The Chinese room argument is based on a misunderstanding of how a computer > work. It has been refuted correctly by Dennett and Hofstadter, since long. > > Bruno > > > > I think in 2019 Dennett may have changed from his previous "consciousness denier" belief, but I'm not sure. (Isn't Hofstadter a joke?)
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/13/the-consciousness-deniers/ This is how philosophers in the twentieth century came to endorse the Denial, the silliest view ever held in the history of human thought. “When I squint just right,” *Dennett *writes in 2013, “it does sort of seem that consciousness must be something in addition to all the things it does for us and to us, some special private glow or here-I-am-ness that would be absent in any robot… But I’ve learned not to credit the hunch. I think it is a flat-out mistake, a failure of imagination.” His position was summarized in an interview in The New York Times: “The elusive subjective conscious experience—the redness of red, the painfulness of pain—that philosophers call qualia? Sheer illusion.” If he’s right, no one has ever really suffered, in spite of agonizing diseases, mental illness, murder, rape, famine, slavery, bereavement, torture, and genocide. And no one has ever caused anyone else pain. *This is the Great Silliness. We must hope that it doesn’t spread outside the academy, or convince some future information technologist or roboticist who has great power over our lives.* @philipthfift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/f3741ba7-9bf1-43d6-87ae-795214016101%40googlegroups.com.
