I pressed the wrong button ... meant to add this to my last post http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1086852/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_5
On 4 February 2014 14:46, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh yes, many other things as well as scary. > > I would add to my recommendations the TV play "The Giftie" by the way, > which I should have thought of earlier! > > > On 4 February 2014 14:32, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 2/3/2014 5:02 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 4 February 2014 13:57, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 2/3/2014 4:03 PM, David Nyman wrote: >>> >>> On 3 February 2014 23:42, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> That's hard to say. I think conscious thought will be found to a class >>>> of thoughts and there will be degrees of consciousness and it will be >>>> complicated and the "Hard Problem" will be seen to have been overly >>>> simplistic. It may have an answer, like "If it can do induction or Cantor >>>> diagonalization it's conscious.", but that may be only one kind of >>>> consciousness and probably not the most interesting. >>> >>> >>> Maybe so, but that's still essentially about the public aspects, isn't >>> it? I guess I'm asking if you think that, in the final analysis, any >>> interesting categorical distinction will remain between the public >>> behaviour that accompanies consciousness (however sophisticated the model) >>> and the private experience of its consequences in one's own case. If such a >>> distinction does remain, people (some of them anyway) will still no doubt >>> feel that something has been left out of the explanation. I accept that >>> many people even now see no need for any such distinction - I've often had >>> trouble getting people who've never considered the matter to grasp what is >>> meant by the HP.Do you personally simply reserve judgement, or do you tend >>> to swing one way or the other? >>> >>> >>> I don't think experience will be explained away. It might be possible >>> to temporarily share experiences by some kind of brain-to-brain connection >>> or recorded experiences. But they won't be exactly the same and they will >>> still be private because they're partial. If this connection gave me >>> exactly your experience then I'd be you and not me - at least until the >>> connection were broken so I could remember being me as well as the >>> experience. >>> >>> My science fictional imaginings include being able to record brain >> states - experiences plus memories - and play them back to another brain.If >> that ever comes to pass, then the person experiencing the playback would >> think and feel that they were the other person, until the end of the >> recording. >> >> Kind of scary, actually... >> >> >> Or enlightening: >> >> "Oh wad some power the giftie gie us >> To see oursel's as others see us! >> It wad frae monie a blunder free us, >> And foolish notion" >> - Robbie Burns >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
