Oh yes, many other things as well as scary. I would add to my recommendations the TV play "The Giftie" by the way, which I should have thought of earlier!
On 4 February 2014 14:32, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2/3/2014 5:02 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 4 February 2014 13:57, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 2/3/2014 4:03 PM, David Nyman wrote: >> >> On 3 February 2014 23:42, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That's hard to say. I think conscious thought will be found to a class of >>> thoughts and there will be degrees of consciousness and it will be >>> complicated and the "Hard Problem" will be seen to have been overly >>> simplistic. It may have an answer, like "If it can do induction or Cantor >>> diagonalization it's conscious.", but that may be only one kind of >>> consciousness and probably not the most interesting. >> >> >> Maybe so, but that's still essentially about the public aspects, isn't >> it? I guess I'm asking if you think that, in the final analysis, any >> interesting categorical distinction will remain between the public >> behaviour that accompanies consciousness (however sophisticated the model) >> and the private experience of its consequences in one's own case. If such a >> distinction does remain, people (some of them anyway) will still no doubt >> feel that something has been left out of the explanation. I accept that >> many people even now see no need for any such distinction - I've often had >> trouble getting people who've never considered the matter to grasp what is >> meant by the HP.Do you personally simply reserve judgement, or do you tend >> to swing one way or the other? >> >> >> I don't think experience will be explained away. It might be possible >> to temporarily share experiences by some kind of brain-to-brain connection >> or recorded experiences. But they won't be exactly the same and they will >> still be private because they're partial. If this connection gave me >> exactly your experience then I'd be you and not me - at least until the >> connection were broken so I could remember being me as well as the >> experience. >> >> My science fictional imaginings include being able to record brain > states - experiences plus memories - and play them back to another brain.If > that ever comes to pass, then the person experiencing the playback would > think and feel that they were the other person, until the end of the > recording. > > Kind of scary, actually... > > > Or enlightening: > > "Oh wad some power the giftie gie us > To see oursel's as others see us! > It wad frae monie a blunder free us, > And foolish notion" > - Robbie Burns > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
