On 7/29/2025 2:58 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 9:07 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

                />>>> A bit of iron found in the ground is unlikely
                to have encountered an SG./


            *>>>True, but it's not unlikely that something equivalent
            could have occurred.*

        >>*Yes because thatleaves a classical record, just like a SG
        does. *

    />Which is close to what I explained was the definition of a
    measurement /


*I know, and that's precisely why I decided touse that phrase.*

    />But just an SG doesn't make a record; /


*If afterthe electron's encounter with the SG magnet it ever runs into a magnetic field again then the electron's behavior will be different than it would have been if it had never had an encounter with that SG magnet. And that is a classical record. *

No.  That's why I included the diagram of the SG experiment in which one blocks or doesn't block one side of a split beam.  Until the beam hits a detector the atoms (not electrons) are maintaining their coherence between beams and can be recombined in a way that is impossible classically.

Brent

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