On 6/5/2025 6:57 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Thursday, June 5, 2025 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

    On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 1:35 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        /> The frequency is just a number that defines a photon's
        energy. Nothing to do with an extended wave./


    *Nothing? Nothing at all? Not quite.There is a simple equation
    that shows the relationship between the frequency of light, its
    wavelength and its speed, its  c=λ⋅f. And because of that very
    simple relationship you can easily perform a fun experiment at home:*

    *Measuring the speed of light with a microwave oven and a
    chocolate bar
    
<https://www.fizzicseducation.com.au/150-science-experiments/light-sound-experiments/measure-the-speed-of-light-with-chocolate/>
    *
    *
    *
    ***If frequency and wavelength are just numbers and have no
    relationship with physical reality then I don't see how you could
    use them to calculate the speed of light which most certainly does
    have a relationship with physical reality.*

*As far as I know, it's never been shown that photons have spatial extent. So, the frequency and wavelength are just numbers that allow us to calculate a photon's energy. AG*
You're directly measuring the wavelength.  The speed of light is just a conversion constant.  So you're inferring the frequency of the microwave.

Brent

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