On Thursday, June 5, 2025 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 6/5/2025 6:57 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:

On Thursday, June 5, 2025 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 1:35 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
 

*> The frequency is just a number that defines a photon's energy. Nothing 
to do with an extended wave.*


*Nothing? Nothing at all? Not quite. There is a simple equation that shows 
the relationship between the frequency of light, its wavelength and its 
speed, its  c=λ⋅f. And because of that very simple relationship you can 
easily perform a fun experiment at home:* 


*Measuring the speed of light with a microwave oven and a chocolate bar 
<https://www.fizzicseducation.com.au/150-science-experiments/light-sound-experiments/measure-the-speed-of-light-with-chocolate/>
 
*

*If frequency and wavelength are just numbers and have no relationship with 
physical reality then I don't see how you could use them to calculate the 
speed of light which most certainly does have a relationship with physical 
reality.*

 

*As far as I know, it's never been shown that photons have spatial extent. 
So, the frequency and wavelength are just numbers that allow us to 
calculate a photon's energy. AG* 

You're directly measuring the wavelength.  The speed of light is just a 
conversion constant.  So you're inferring the frequency of the microwave.

Brent


*Then the photon has extention in space? Is this your claim? AG*

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