That's not what Noether's theorem says.  Time symmetry means that if you put a time shift in the equations of evolution, then equations remain valid.  Not that the system state is static.  In your interpretation any process that conserved energy would leave the system unchanged and explosions wouldn't conserve energy.

Brent

On 6/1/2025 4:38 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Jun 1, 2025 at 3:16 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

    /> But the question persists; when photons redden as the universe
    expands, where does the lost energy go? AG/


*The energy doesn't go anywhere, it's just destroyed, energy is not conserved at the cosmic level. Noether's theorem says if there's a symmetry, then there's a corresponding conservation law (but the reverse does not necessarily hold, if there is a conservation law there may or may not be a corresponding symmetry). *
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*In the case of energy Noether says the corresponding symmetry is time, at the cosmic scale if energy is conserved then the universe should look the same from one time to another, but if the universe is expanding it doesn't look the same from one time to another, and if the universe is accelerating then time is even less symmetrical. So energy is not conserved globally, however it's still true that at the local level if things are at thermal equilibrium then the amount of energy entering a finite volume of space will equal the amount of energy leaving that volume.*
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