Thanks Phil,
Sounds like it would be "iffy" at best to plug my 2020 Chevy Bolt into Tesla Superchargers with a Levitron etc adapter. It would be nice to get all EV's universally fast charging but the big-3 never invested in fast chargers (except for intermittently maintained VW-Electrify America) - still seems like if you want to take long trips in an EV, Tesla is still the best choice. Have a renewable energy day, Mark Mark E. Hanson 184 Vista Lane Fincastle, VA 24090 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell REEVA: community service RE & EV project club Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) UL Certified PV Installer My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh REEVA Demo: http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0 Fincastle Solar Weather Station <https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddablePage/show/a88920376f864ecabaed843dd8975b8d/signature> From: (-Phil-) Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 8:25 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: evtinke...@gmail.com; Mark Hanson <markehans...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ccs to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol All V3 and V4 superchargers (you can tell because they have 4 pedestals per cabinet, so labelled #A-#D), have CCS (PLC) modems and are capable of charging any CCS vehicle Tesla decides to allow with a simple mechanical (no electronics) adapter. V1 and V2 superchargers only speak Tesla's proprietary Single-Wire CAN protocol, and Tesla will not release this for other makes, though it is possible to upgrade these by replacing the electronics in the pedestal to include a PLC modem, but I have not seen this "in the wild" yet. Tesla so far has used Plug-N-Charge certificates to restrict CCS charging for 3rd parties, but word is that some GM cars will not support this, so I don't know if they will open it up for these cars or not. On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:39 PM Mike Chancey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: Tesla switched to the CCS communication protocol due to European requirements. Newer Teslas sold in the US speak CCS but use the NACS connector. Older Teslas need a hardware upgrade to use newer Tesla superchargers. CCS cars, even with an adapter, cannot use older Tesla superchargers as those don't use CCS protocols. -----Original Message----- From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org <mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> > On Behalf Of Mark Hanson via EV Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 3:29 PM To: Electric List <ev@lists.evdl.org <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: Mark Hanson <markehans...@gmail.com <mailto:markehans...@gmail.com> > Subject: [EVDL] Ccs to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol Hi Folks Isn’t a Tesla communication protocol adapter needed to operate your non-Tesla EV (like my Bolt) with the HVDC CCS to J3400(Nacs) physical adapter ? I don’t see how the adapter would work without a GM agreement with Tesla to translate the data to GMs CCS fast charging protocol. Similarly I bought a few years ago a ChadeMo adapter ($400 from Tesla) that never worked well due to the incompatible data transfer to Electrify America fast chargers. The few times I tried it, I had to call Electrify America 800 number and have the technician remotely close the HV charge contactor to initiate charging. Best regards Mark Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240925/84ff55b8/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
