All V3 and V4 superchargers (you can tell because they have 4 pedestals per
cabinet, so labelled #A-#D), have CCS (PLC) modems and are capable of
charging any CCS vehicle Tesla decides to allow with a simple mechanical
(no electronics) adapter.

V1 and V2 superchargers only speak Tesla's proprietary Single-Wire CAN
protocol, and Tesla will not release this for other makes, though it is
possible to upgrade these by replacing the electronics in the pedestal to
include a PLC modem, but I have not seen this "in the wild" yet.

Tesla so far has used Plug-N-Charge certificates to restrict CCS charging
for 3rd parties, but word is that some GM cars will not support this, so I
don't know if they will open it up for these cars or not.

On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:39 PM Mike Chancey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
wrote:

> Tesla switched to the CCS communication protocol due to European
> requirements. Newer Teslas sold in the US speak CCS but use the NACS
> connector. Older Teslas need a hardware upgrade to use newer Tesla
> superchargers. CCS cars, even with an adapter, cannot use older Tesla
> superchargers as those don't use CCS protocols.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Mark Hanson via EV
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 3:29 PM
> To: Electric List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> Cc: Mark Hanson <markehans...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [EVDL] Ccs to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol
>
> Hi Folks
> Isn’t a Tesla communication protocol adapter needed to operate your
> non-Tesla EV (like my Bolt) with the HVDC CCS to J3400(Nacs) physical
> adapter ?  I don’t see how the adapter would work without a GM agreement
> with Tesla to translate the data to GMs CCS fast charging protocol.
>
> Similarly I bought a few years ago a ChadeMo adapter ($400 from Tesla)
> that never worked well due to the incompatible data transfer to Electrify
> America fast chargers.  The few times I tried it, I had to call Electrify
> America 800 number and have the technician remotely close the HV charge
> contactor to initiate charging.
> Best regards Mark
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