I agree with you it takes a lot to go from concept to production vehicle. I
doubt there is anyone on this forum with personal knowledge of who did what.
All I know is what I have read.
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 02:28:39 PM CST, (-Phil-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
I don't agree, I think it was pretty genius to recognize the tech ACP had, and
decide to bring it to a successful market offering. APC only really made the
eBox conversion. The tZero was only a "concept" they didn't think had legs.
They took ACPs powertrain, Lotus' chassis, and some pretty innovative laptop
18650 battery packaging and made a pretty awesome EV with the sole intention of
using it to raise money to build a second mass-market EV. They succeeded, and
I'm reasonably sure they wouldn't have made it without 2 things: 1. Elon's
Money, and 2. The "gift" of the Freemont plant.
However, I'm not as convinced that Elon's engineering input was essential.
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:21 PM paul dove <[email protected]> wrote:
and it wasn't the genius of Eberhard, Tarpenning or Elon.
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 01:57:16 PM CST, (-Phil-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yeah, the original Tesla Roadster used the ACP design with very little change.
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:55 AM paul dove via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
Little known history. The Tesla drive train was purchased from a company
founded by Allen Cocconi called AC Propulsion. Allen was the engineer that
designed the EV1 drive train for GM.
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:33:29 AM CST, Tom Mandera via EV
<[email protected]> wrote:
Why do we start with an ICE roller and convert it to EV? Why don't we
start by machining some wheels on the lathe, some square tubing for
frame rails, start hand laying fiberglass for a body..
It's almost always easier (faster/cheaper) to start with even a flawed
initial implementation than to build something from total scratch.
Especially if part of your aura is about saving the planet.
At least, that's why I would've bought an existing car company and
leveraged it into something bigger/better rather than starting from zero.
On 12/19/2022 9:44 AM, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote:
> Why did Musk buy Tesla rather than create a car company on his own from
> scratch?
>
> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 08:26:25 AM PST, Michael Ross via EV
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Musk isn't a real engineer, and without engineers, Tesla dies."
>
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