I don't agree, I think it was pretty genius to recognize the tech ACP had, and decide to bring it to a successful market offering. APC only really made the eBox conversion. The tZero was only a "concept" they didn't think had legs.
They took ACPs powertrain, Lotus' chassis, and some pretty innovative laptop 18650 battery packaging and made a pretty awesome EV with the sole intention of using it to raise money to build a second mass-market EV. They succeeded, and I'm reasonably sure they wouldn't have made it without 2 things: 1. Elon's Money, and 2. The "gift" of the Freemont plant. However, I'm not as convinced that Elon's engineering input was essential. On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:21 PM paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > and it wasn't the genius of Eberhard, Tarpenning or Elon. > > On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 01:57:16 PM CST, (-Phil-) < > philp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yeah, the original Tesla Roadster used the ACP design with very little > change. > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:55 AM paul dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > Little known history. The Tesla drive train was purchased from a company > founded by Allen Cocconi called AC Propulsion. Allen was the engineer that > designed the EV1 drive train for GM. > On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:33:29 AM CST, Tom Mandera via EV < > ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Why do we start with an ICE roller and convert it to EV? Why don't we > start by machining some wheels on the lathe, some square tubing for > frame rails, start hand laying fiberglass for a body.. > > > It's almost always easier (faster/cheaper) to start with even a flawed > initial implementation than to build something from total scratch. > > > Especially if part of your aura is about saving the planet. > > > At least, that's why I would've bought an existing car company and > leveraged it into something bigger/better rather than starting from zero. > > On 12/19/2022 9:44 AM, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: > > Why did Musk buy Tesla rather than create a car company on his own from > scratch? > > > > On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 08:26:25 AM PST, Michael Ross via > EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > > "Musk isn't a real engineer, and without engineers, Tesla dies." > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221219/154bb0b6/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221219/49c5fb87/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
