On 18 Dec 2022 at 13:34, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > I think this is an example of the logical fallacies that permeate our > society today.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I see nothing fallacious in such a decision. Rational purchasing decisions take many factors into account. > Musk may be a jerk; but he still deserves credit for accomplished great > things. I'll give him credit for lining up Tesla's financing, which I don't think Gage and Eberhard could have done. He also did a fair bit to dispel EVs' undeserved "golf-car-and-forklift" image. But that was well over a decade ago. IMO, in recent years, Tesla has succeeded more in spite of Musk than because of him. Musk isn't a real engineer, and without engineers, Tesla dies. You're mission driven for EVs, and I suspect Tesla's engineers are too, but that takes you only so far when the boss treats you like trash. Tesla also can't have a living and thriving business without customers. A year ago, only those of us who followed EVs pretty closely knew about Musk's employee abuse, his company's poor safety record, and his violations of California and EU environmental and labor laws. Now his Twitter dumpster fire is all over the news, and everybody knows about at least his callous attitude toward his employees. No surprise, recent surveys show Tesla's "brand image" sliding into the negative. www.teslarati.com/tesla-approval-rating-negative-territory-survey/ With that, and rapidly rising prices, Tesla's vehicle sales are down. If Musk could stay off Twitter, they might eventually recover. But unlike more emotionally mature CEOs, I don't think he has the impulse control to do that. Tesla's stock price is down too, off over 60 percent from its peak, with much of that decline arriving after he took over Twitter. https://bipartisanreport.com/2022/12/14/tesla-stock-value-suffers-steep- decline-amidst-musk-antics/ or https://v.gd/aQjxy1 Musk could depress the stock further if he sells more of it to prop up his personal megaphone, Twitter. A Tesla may be a fine EV, but it's not 2013. Today there are many more good EV choices, especially in Europe. With all due respect, I don't think that it's at all irrational to buy a non- Tesla EV to avoid putting any more money into Musk's already-stuffed pockets. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = I think [Rio de Janeiro mayor Marcelo] Crivella will be remembered as a mayor to be forgotten. -- Alvaro Costa e Silva = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
