In Europe they even have electric ships. I haven’t heard of any grid issues 
there. Fully Charged Presents Electric Ferry With 4.1 MWh Battery:

 ttps://insideevs.com/news/349545/fully-charged-electric-ferry/



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On Thursday, November 24, 2022, 1:17 AM, Peri Hartman via EV 
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

Bill, I don't have any axe to grind here, but the issue was about 
providing power to charge long haul trucks. While I think your argument 
works well for small trucks and domestic cars, I'd like to see what you 
have to say about long haul trucks. I highly respect your points of 
view.

Peri

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------ Original Message ------
From: "Bill Dube via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: "Bill Dube" <billd...@killacycle.com>
Sent: 23-Nov-22 14:55:48
Subject: Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

>No need upgrade the grid. None. Just need a few incentives and a little 
>intelligence.
>
>There is a lot of misinformation about this, here on the EVDL even.
>
> >>>>>> Grid capacity problem ? >>>>>>>>>>>
>
>    There is LOTS of power available on the grid, just not at the peak times 
>of the day.  No problem what-so-ever. EVs are _driven_ during the day, and are 
>charged when they are parked, during the night. Provide an economic incentive 
>to folks to change off peak and the grid capacity "problem" vanishes.
>
> >>>>>>>> Solar power is during the day, while you are at work. How do you 
> >>>>>>>> charge from solar? <<<<
>
>    It is a power grid. You put power in at one location, and you can take it 
>out at another. This is what it does. Use it.
>
>    If your home solar panels are providing surplus power to the grid, you can 
>draw it out from a location other than your home to charge your EV. It is 
>simply a matter of giving the grid operator incentive to take a reasonable fee 
>for doing this. Legislation, financial incentive, public sentiment, etc. No 
>brainer.
>
> >>>>>>> EV power is no different than washers, driers, stoves, electric heat, 
> >>>>>>> etc. <<<<<<
>
>    The grid has gone through decades of constant evolution. It has very 
>nicely adapted and upgraded with the advent of air conditioning, electric 
>heat, and power hungry home appliances.
>
>    As EVs slowly ramp up in popularity, the grid operators will adapt. EVs 
>and EV chargers can easily be quickly switched off and back on to "park shave" 
>during periods of peak load. The grid operators simply have to decide on which 
>of the many methods they want to use to talk to your EV or your charger, and 
>offer you an incentive to participate.
>
>Bill D.
>
>
>
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