Terry wrote:
> Leslie,
>
> I am not opposed to this change and if there is enough
> intrest in this then great.
>
> I think that a better feature would be a "tool check"
> Cutter is loading up(or whatever problem),you hit the
> tool check button and the machine would move to a safe location
>   
How would the tool know where the safe location is or how to get to the 
safe location?

If I'm thread milling on a mill, I can't just pull straight up? If I'm 
face grooving on a lathe I have to move in one direction, while if I'm 
cutting off, I have to move in another.

Ken

> and go into a pause mode.Fix the problem and hit the tool check 
> button again and machine would go to where it was when the button
> was pushed(or maybe the line right before it.
> It would be pretty close to what an M01 would do but
> with a move away and back.
> There is going to drawbacks for this but it might be useful.
>
>
>
> Later
>
> Terry
>
>
>
> On Mon Jun 22  4:02 , Leslie Newell <[email protected]> sent:
>
>   
>> Hi Terry,
>>
>>     
>>> Having a tool presetter or not,at some point in time you have to
>>> inform the control how long the next the tool is.
>>>       
>> Of course.
>>
>>     
>>> then you put the next tool in and
>>> touch it off, write it in the tool table in the T2 line
>>>       
>> You need to manually jog to touch off the tool. It doesn't matter if you 
>> need MDI or not, you still have to stop the program. Not sure why you 
>> bother with manually changing the tool table though. The touch off 
>> button in Axis does it for you, though it needs to be able to use MDI 
>> mode to do it.
>>
>>     
>>> then scroll down to T2M6 in the prog and right click and hit start from 
>>> here.
>>> I think that is pretty easy.
>>>       
>> Yes, but prone to errors, especially if you have a long program with a 
>> number of tool changes. It is a lot easier to simply press cycle start.
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Replacing broken tools goes like this for me:
>>> Groan loudly hit esc,jog out of the way,pick up
>>> what is left of the tool and throw it at
>>> the wall as hard as I can.
>>>       
>> LOL. Being able to jog halfway through a job doesn't really help with 
>> this situation. Unless you have superhuman reflexes you will still have 
>> to back up the program to the point where the cutter failed.
>>
>>
>> However, where it is really useful is if the cutter starts loading up 
>> with swarf. I regularly machine sheet plastic (acrylic engraving 
>> laminate). While plunging the cutter often gets a lot of swarf wrapped 
>> around it. After a couple of plunges you end up with enough tied around 
>> the cutter to start rubbing and burning the surface of the work. You 
>> then need to pause, lift the cutter and clear the swarf. This is a 
>> production job, not hobby use. I have experienced similar problems often 
>> enough on my lathe as well.
>>
>>
>>     
>>> I view the developers time as super-valuable and would not
>>> like to see them spend time on this when there are other more
>>> important things on their plate.
>>>       
>> My point is that being able to jog/use MDI during a manual tool change 
>> should be a relatively trivial task that makes life a easier for a lot 
>> of EMC users. The other day I was talking to an OEM who was trying to 
>> choose between EMC and Mach. He was pretty enthusiastic about EMC until 
>> I told him you can't jog during a tool change. As far as he was 
>> concerned that was a show stopper and he went for Mach.
>>
>> Being able to jog during pause is not nearly as easy and would involve 
>> quite a bit of work.
>>
>> Les
>>     
>
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