Hello folks, Thanks for all the replies, most useful and it gives me plenty to go on!
Wishing you all health, wealth and happiness for 2022 James James Pawson The EMC Problem Solver Unit 3 Compliance Ltd EMC : Environmental & Vibration : Electrical Safety : CE & UKCA : Consultancy <http://www.unit3compliance.co.uk/> www.unit3compliance.co.uk | <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] +44(0)1274 911747 | +44(0)7811 139957 2 Wellington Business Park, New Lane, Bradford, BD4 8AL Registered in England and Wales # 10574298 From: Bill Owsley <[email protected]> Sent: 20 December 2021 03:48 To: [email protected]; James Pawson (U3C) <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] US vehicle EMC regulations A list of the mostly known standards ! Thanks to Todd Hubing ! LearnEMC - List of Automotive Electromagnetic Compatibility Test Standards <https://learnemc.com/automotive-emc-test-standards> LearnEMC - List of Automotive Electromagnetic Compatibility Test Standards Todd Hubing An up-to-date list of Automotive Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC) Test Standards The Big Three, GM, Ford, Chrysler, make up their own separate standards in collusion with each other, using parts and pieces of the rest of the list. And the tricky part is that to get "accepted" as qualified to test to their standards, one has to build their specified test equipment AND pass their test item through the requirements. And they don't help nor provide hints. All you get is a pass/fail result. It makes NARTE a grad degree - from kindergarten ! - Bill Owsley EMC First LLC (Jan 2022) On Friday, December 17, 2021, 10:09:09 AM EST, James Pawson (U3C) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Hi David, Thank you that is very useful. I’ve seen OEM specs for Ford and GM and, as you observe, their requirements often exceed R10 and CISPR 25. It was a rude shock to that particular client… All the best and merry xmas James James Pawson The EMC Problem Solver Unit 3 Compliance Ltd EMC : Environmental & Vibration : Electrical Safety : CE & UKCA : Consultancy www.unit3compliance.co.uk <http://www.unit3compliance.co.uk/> | <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] +44(0)1274 911747 | +44(0)7811 139957 2 Wellington Business Park, New Lane, Bradford, BD4 8AL Registered in England and Wales # 10574298 From: David Schaefer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: 17 December 2021 14:22 To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] US vehicle EMC regulations Hi James, In the USA vehicles are covered by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS), which do not address EMC/EMI. Part 15.103 excludes vehicles, except for the general clause that they cannot cause harmful interference. The normal intentional testing and certification would be required for a radio. All the automotive manufacturers have their own internal specifications, usually far exceeding the requirements from ECE R10. 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Please contact IT Service Desk if you are in any doubt about this email. Hi all, I’m familiar with UNECE Regulation 10 that covers EMC for vehicles and Electronic Sub Assemblies in Europe. Is there an equivalent set of vehicle EMC standards for the US? Presumably CFR47 Part 15 applies to unintentional and intentional radiators as well? 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