Hi Mike,

> On 14 Jun 2020, at 21:12, Michael StJohns <m...@nthpermutation.com> wrote:
> 
> Roy et al - 
> 
> Is there a document from ICANN taking a position on the assignment of TLDs 
> based on  ISO3166 assignments?   

Yes: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/icann-iso-3166-2012-05-09-en

From that page:

"In 2000, the ICANN Board of Directors recognized the ISO 3166 Maintenance 
Agency as the authoritative entity for country code designations and officially 
adopted the use of ISO 3166-1 and the 3166-MA exceptional reserved list as the 
set of eligible designations for ccTLD assignment (September 2000)”

Please note that:

The ISO/TC46/WG2 “owns” ISO3166. Any substantial changes to it, need to go 
through TC46. The user-assigned two letter codes exist since the inception of 
the standard (15 december 1974).

TC46/WG2 has designated the User-Assigned two letter codes to users of the 
ISO3166-1 standard (not to the Maintenance Agency!)

TC46/WG2 refers the remaining codes to the Maintenance Agency for the 
assignment (Reserved, Assigned, Re-Assigned, Deleted, etc, etc) of two letter 
codes to country names.

The ISO3166/MA has no authority over the User-Assigned two letter codes.

It is naive to think that these policies, some of which pre-dates ICANN and 
even the Internet would be ignored by either ICANN or the ISO. 

I think it is safe to assume that these codes will never by delegated in the 
root zone.

> When Jon was doing this he was adamant about following their lead - rather 
> than having to make political decisions about what was a country.  The main 
> role he had was not the selection of the TLDs, but making sure that the 
> delegations went to the right organizations related to the countries 
> indicated by the TLD.   I would say that ICANN should probably have the same 
> role.   

I agree.

> Given that ISO has indicated a range of specifically NOT issued 2 letter 
> codes, and that these codes will never (should never?) be added to the root 
> zone, I would suggest that it's probably not an ICANN role to weigh in on 
> this interpretation.

I agree.

> That said, I'd prefer it if the document selected a few (<=10) codes from 
> these ranges so that filtering may be built into various servers and clients 
> to prevent leakage.  

With all due respect, I’ll wait with responding about specifics until the WG 
has adopted the document (if at all).

Warmly, 

Roy
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