On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:37 PM, hellekin <helle...@gnu.org> wrote: >> What benefit does tying a bunch of unrelated strings together bring >> in arguing for Special Name status? >> > *** I know you already replied that you already commented the P2PNames > draft, but frankly my response should be pasting the whole Introduction > of it here, because you don't seem to have read it at all. Maybe you > would like to comment on it, instead of saying those strings are unrelated.
The problem with draft-grothoff-- is not that the strings it proposes to standardize are unrelated. Whether they are related or not is immaterial. The problem is that there is more than one such string, and consensus depends on the least popular string listed. By separating out .onion, we give ourselves a better chance of actually getting consensus in the short term. It could be that proponents for some of the other strings in draft-grothoff-- would prefer that onion not be separated out in hopes that this will make it more likely that the other strings mentioned in draft-grothoff-- can ride on the coattails of .onion, which seems like a shoe-in. However, anyone who thinks this has minimal experience with DNSOP. Such a belief would be overly optimistic. In fact, if there is anything that elicits strong objection, it will hold up the whole draft, no matter how much consensus there may be on the more popular names. This is precisely because we operate on the basis of rough consensus, not on the basis of popularity. So tacking something less popular onto something popular does not get the less popular thing support: it robs support from the more popular thing. I think it's actually more likely that we will get consensus on the individual names in draft-grothoff-- if they are broken out into separate drafts and discussed separately, because, again, it's easier to get consensus on one thing than on a bunch of things. Even though some of the proposals may not attract the same popular sentiment as .onion, having careful, focused discussions on each one is much more likely to bring us to consensus than trying to have a broad discussion encompassing all of them at once. So please stop arguing that draft-appelbaum-- should be dropped in favor of draft-grothoff--. This is going to delay .onion, and it is not going to speed up anything else. _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
