On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 5:35 AM Jonathan Ellis <jbel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Moving back to dev.
>
> Since it seems like there's some confusion on this point, it's perfectly
> normal for PMC discussions around new proposals with decision-making
> authority by the PMC to take place on the public dev list.  The private
> list is only necessary when confidentiality is required, and the dev list
> allows non-PMC voices to be heard more readily as well as promoting
> transparency on how consensus was reached.
>
> I am not aware of any ASF policy that would prohibit subcommittees like
> this.  (I'm not aware of precedent in starting one either, but as Aaron
> pointed out, this *is* common at similar foundations with similar
> governance goals to the ASF, and there's no reason we can't cross-pollinate
> good ideas.)

Jonathan,

If you keep switching from private@ to dev@ list, most of the people
on dev@ list will be out of context of the replies from other PMC
members on the private list.

Your proposal of subcommittees has already raised strong concerns from
4 PMC members, with no one speaking in favour of it.

> I am not aware of any ASF policy that would prohibit subcommittees like
> this

The part of your proposal of including representatives of vendors in
these subcommittees goes directly against the spirit of these
guidelines: https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html

Matteo

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Matteo Merli
<mme...@apache.org>

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