I don't think we should create any sub-committees to bypass the PMC.
The sub-committee topic or proposal should be properly discussed and
approved by the PMC.

In regards to meetups, I don't think we should put every Pulsar meetup
under one umbrella group even this group is managed by PMC. Pulsar
meetup organization should be done in a decentralized way. Everyone
should have the right to start or organize a Pulsar meetup without
going through a "manager" of an umbrella group and ask for approval or
being listed. The responsibility of the PMC is to ensure the usage of
the Pulsar trademark in those meetups is good.

1) If you are the Pulsar meetup organizers, you can use the Pulsar
Slack channel and mailing lists to recruit speakers. I don't see how
having an umbrella group will facilitate the coordination.
2) If the umbrella group is to help discoverability, you can use
hashtags to do so.

Lastly, since there was a concern about the usage of the "Apache
Pulsar" trademark for this umbrella group, my recommendation here is
to solve the concern with the PMC.

- Sijie





On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:12 PM Aaron Williams <aa...@wi5s.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> On the Meet-ups, we already have ones that have just started up in
> Northern California, Southern California, and the Netherlands (run by 3
> different people) and I know of at least one more.
> Are there others?  The only good thing about this Covid world is that the
> events that are scheduled are all virtual, so everyone can attend.  One of
> the great things about these local meetup groups is that you can do things
> in a language other than English.  Also, we have started using the #meetup
> channel on the slack channel (
> https://apache-pulsar.slack.com/archives/CJZ6M2GBZ) to help coordinate
> these.  If you are interested in listing yours under the wider umbrella
> part or just want some more information, let me know.
>
> But this is where it would be nice to have a Marketing /Communication
> committee.  We had them for the projects at my last position when I was at
> a different foundation (I won't mention its name and yes I know that this
> is ASF and I really like and believe in the "The Apache Way" of "Community
> over Code") .  What really makes them very beneficial is that it is a great
> way for the wider community to come together and plan events, promote new
> releases, coordinate, etc. and all of this grows the community.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:11 PM Jonathan Ellis <jbel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Meetups are an important part of community building and knowledge sharing
> > for open source projects like Apache Pulsar.  At the same time, the work of
> > recruiting speakers and organizing sponsors [1] is both time consuming and
> > not core to project governance.
> >
> > I propose that the PMC designate a small community communications
> > subcommittee (with representatives from multiple vendors as well as
> > unaffiliated participants) to organize monthly community meetups.  This
> > makeup will help guarantee vendor neutrality moving forward.
> >
> > In the meantime, my colleague Aaron Williams has created an umbrella group
> > [2] at Meetup to facilitate coordination there.  We are ready to turn this
> > over to the Apache Pulsar PMC.
> >
> > [1] we can expect that sponsors to pay for food and drink will be relevant
> > again, hopefully soon!
> > [2] https://www.meetup.com/pro/apache-pulsar/
> >

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