Of course I do. :-) A CI gate might be very helpful for this purpose as a further step to keep those files aligned by avoiding regressions IMO but for the time being we'd perfectly fine with manual updates.
> On 26/nov/2013, at 03:19, "Ben Pfaff" <b...@nicira.com> wrote: > > You realize that no one else is going to update them, right? > >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:03:02AM +0000, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: >> What if we simply add a folder with the Visual Studio build files to begin >> with? >> >>> On 26/nov/2013, at 01:29, "Ben Pfaff" <b...@nicira.com> wrote: >>> >>> We're not switching to CMake. If you have something to generate the >>> XML files you need, we'll check that in. >>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:23:37PM +0000, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: >>>> Visual Studio is the "de facto" IDE for Windows development. It provides >>>> all the features you'd expect from a modern environment (integrated >>>> debugger, refactoring tools, Git integration, syntax highlighting and a >>>> gazillion additional features) and in general it allows to be a few orders >>>> of magnitude more productive than a text editor and some command line >>>> tools. >>>> >>>> For other scenarios, e.g. Python or other interpreted dynamic languages, >>>> I'm personally a great fan of simpler editors like Sublime, but I'd never >>>> even think of working in C/C++/C#/Java/etc without an IDE and especially >>>> an integrated debugger. >>>> >>>> I can assure you that no Windows developer I ever met would ever accept to >>>> jump back in time 20 years and use vi as her/his main productivity tool. >>>> :-) If this port is meant to attract more Windows community contributors >>>> then Visual Studio support is substantially mandatory. >>>> >>>> Said that, if in your intentions the project is not meant to be developed >>>> on Windows but only compiled to produce the binaries, well, makefiles are >>>> enough. >>>> >>>> I suggest to take a tour of other well known cross platform projects and >>>> see how those manage the Windows builds. You'll see that some of them >>>> consider Windows as a platform for builds only (basically no development), >>>> some use CMake to support all the required platforms (Qt5, MySQL, FreeRDP >>>> come to mind) and some use separate build systems (CPython, Apache, just >>>> to name a couple). >>>> >>>> If you're interested we can record a quick webcast to show how to use >>>> Visual Studio for Open vSwitch development activities. This might help in >>>> clarifying some of the statements above. >>>> >>>> As a final note, Visual Studio files are just XML files, so generating >>>> them dynamically is not that complicated if we really have to. >>>> >>>> Alessandro >>>> >>>>> On 26/nov/2013, at 00:18, "Gurucharan Shetty" <shet...@nicira.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Jesse Gross <je...@nicira.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> They're the equivalent of makefiles for Visual Studio. Without them >>>>>> you can't use the Windows-native development tools so while it's not >>>>>> impossible to work it certainly makes life more difficult. >>>>> >>>>> One can still edit the files using a vi editor (or any other simple >>>>> editor)on windows and do a make. Probably the disadvantage is that you >>>>> can't use visual studio ide to write code(?). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Ben Pfaff <b...@nicira.com> wrote: >>>>>>> What I'm trying to get at is, what are the "solution and related >>>>>>> projects" good for? The non-Windows world does fine without them, so >>>>>>> if "make" can work on Windows then why is the result "basically >>>>>>> useless for any practical development purpose"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 04:50:40PM -0500, Ethan Jackson wrote: >>>>>>>> My understanding is that Guru is working on a solution to this >>>>>>>> problem. What were your thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ethan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Ben Pfaff <b...@nicira.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 08:11:00PM +0000, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: >>>>>>>>>> We did some testing with autoconf / automake on Windows. Makefiles >>>>>>>>>> are getting generated correctly although we cannot obviously verify >>>>>>>>>> the result with a full build since we didn?t port all the patches to >>>>>>>>>> the master branch yet. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There?s anyway a huge limitation: it does not generate a Visual >>>>>>>>>> Studio solution and related projects, which means that it?s >>>>>>>>>> basically useless for any practical development purpose. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are those files good for? >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> dev@openvswitch.org >>>>>>>>> http://openvswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> dev mailing list >>>>>>> dev@openvswitch.org >>>>>>> http://openvswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> dev mailing list >>>>> dev@openvswitch.org >>>>> http://openvswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dev mailing list >>>> dev@openvswitch.org >>>> http://openvswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ dev mailing list dev@openvswitch.org http://openvswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/dev
