On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:26 PM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > On 1 March 2013 21:00, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> Are we expecting any change to Pootle in the near term? If so, what and >>> when? >>> >> >> The changes look trivial but are not so trivial since Pootle accounts are >> now linked to committer accounts. Currently anonymous users can suggest >> translations, and users cannot register (they have to be committers). >> >> We need, for many good reasons (traceability, accountability...) that >> anonymous suggestions are disabled and, at the same time, account creation >> for non-committers is possible. >> >> I was concerned about losing content but apparently Jan reassured here and >> on the l10n list that we are in a position to use/import strings from >> Pootle at this stage. So it is a configuration/policy issue only. > > > The import might be partly manual or a "perl/python" volunteer writes a > small script. It is quite simple, match source file, english text in the > translated po file, with the new po file, and update (I can write the req. > but I am not fluent in perl/python). > > Offering an import possibility was a demand, since I cannot (and will not) > request a full stop on translation. > > >> >> I would not recommend waiting too long. We've shown that offline >>> translation is quite reasonable.. Most of the 3.4.1 languages were >>> done that way. >>> >> >> It worked, but the current process is really demanding on the motivation >> (or technical skills) of volunteers. Compare an answer like "Welcome! Next >> week we will send you a link to a .tar.bz2 archive containing 240 PO files >> that you should open individually, translate and send us back" to "Welcome! >> Please register at https://translate.apache.org/ and start translating >> now". >> >> Then, if you ask me, I would probably prefer the 240 PO files, but the >> majority of new volunteers will be perfectly at home with Pootle. So I >> believe we should fix it before any other mass-recruitment actions. >> > > We need to wait for the release of pootle, last I checked it was still not > official. Once 2.5 is released I will update translate-vm. > > Please consider the translate-vm, is currently NOT configured for a higher > online volume (about 3 users and mysql is strugling). Infra has agreed that > I do performance tuning after installing the new release. > > It should be possible to configure 2.5 to use both ldap and local db. The > current version is either/or making it technically impossible to allow > non-commiter login. Since pootle is seen as a asf-wide service, we need to > get the acceptance from infra. >
Ah. OK. That is the part I did not know before. This is not entirely an Infra policy thing, but we're waiting for some new technical capabilities in Pootle 2.5. -Rob > Please remember genLang will reduce the number of files to 54 files (1 pr > module, and for helpcontent2 1 pr sub directory). The extraction part of > genLang is nearly ready for production (as you might have seen in the > commits). > > rgds > jan I. > > Regards, >> Andrea. >>
