On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
<orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 27.02.2013 11:17, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 26.02.2013 22:48, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>>> <orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 09.08.2012 22:23, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07.08.2012 23:44, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I created a page with this content at
>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/legacy/thankyou.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May be we can use it also for our update service. It could be the
>>>>>> landing page for users of legacy OOo versions for whose language we do
>>>>>> not have a released package.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For those cases it would be better to wait until 3.4.1 is out, then
>>>>> provide, for
>>>>> unsupported languages, some "beta/RC" builds or langpacks based on the
>>>>> same SVN
>>>>> revision and the SDF files we have now and create a page saying
>>>>> something
>>>>> like
>>>>> "your language is not officially supported, but you can help us
>>>>> [links to
>>>>> unofficial builds and instructions]". But this is just an idea that
>>>>> we can
>>>>> discuss after 3.4.1 is released.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I would definitely wait until AOO 3.4.1 is out.
>>>>
>>>> Having unofficial language packs for our unsupported languages would
>>>> be a
>>>> good idea, esp. to attract some new volunteers for translations.
>>>>
>>>> I will keep your's and Rob's idea in mind for my planned future work
>>>> on the
>>>> update service.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Now that the 3.4.1 language respin is released I'd like to bring back
>>> to mind this earlier discussion.   There are (we assume) many users
>>> out there still running OOo 3.3.0 or earlier.  Even months after 3.4.0
>>> and 3.4.1 were released we get a steady stream of upgrades from OOo
>>> 3.3.0, 3.2.1 and 3.2.0.
>>>
>>> But we're only advertising upgrades for those cases where we have a
>>> translation for that language.  I wonder if we could use the upgrade
>>> notification message as a form of recruitment for translation help in
>>> AOO 4.0?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the update service could be used for it.
>> For each language we are able to provide its own web site URL. Thus, we
>> could use a landing page URL for languages for which we have no release.
>>
>> I will have a look, if the message shown in the update service dialog in
>> the running OOo 3.2, 3.2.1 and 3.3 instance can already contain a
>> corresponding short message that the new version is not available in the
>> requested language.
>>
>
> I had a look and an additional text is possible - see attached screenshot.
> The additional text should be translated into the corresponding language.
>

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-Rob

> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>
>>> One idea would be this:
>>>
>>> 1) Create a landing page on the website that makes the following points:
>>>
>>> a) You are running an older version of OpenOffice.  A more recent one
>>> is available, AOO 3.4.1, available in the following languages...
>>>
>>> b) We're working on a new 4.0 release with many exciting feature
>>> (point to blog post).  We'd love to support your language, but need
>>> help with translation.  If you want to help, or know someone who might
>>> be interested, here is where to find more information on how to get
>>> involved...
>>>
>>> c) Sign up here on the announcement mailing list (or Facebook, or
>>> Twitter or Google+) to be notified when AOO 4.0 is released
>>>
>>> 2) Then enable update notifications for all languages not included in
>>> AOO 3.4.1, and point the user to the new landing page.
>>>
>>> 3) After a week revert the update configuration file on our server to
>>> the earlier state, so users do not get this message repeatedly.  (By
>>> default it should check only once a week).
>>>
>>> I think something like the above would be great to do in the near
>>> term, since it would give enough time for new volunteers to complete
>>> translations in time for AOO 4.0.
>>>
>>
>> +1 from my side.
>> ad 3): may extend to two weeks
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.

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