agree with Nathan, removing seems / feels harmful, lets focus on hal :-P -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
On Thu, Oct 8, 2026, 03:22 Nathan Hartman <[email protected]> wrote: > In my humble opinion, removing PMC / committers would be damaging to the > project. I'm active in other Apache projects and it's pretty common for > people to become inactive for a while and then get involved again at a > later time. Removing people from the project could send a message that > "you're not welcome here anymore." > > Anyway this is a different subject than the HAL question, which is a > complex issue in itself. > > Kind regards, > Nathan > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2026 at 7:28 PM Gregory Nutt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > There are quite a few updated ASF documents on this: > > > > About Emeritus members: > https://www.apache.org/forms/emeritus-request.pdf > > > > According to this, the PMC can convert a any member who has not been > > active for six months to Emeritus: Committer is considered emeritus by > > their own declaration or by not contributing in any form to the project > for > > over six months. An emeritus Committer may request reinstatement of > commit > > access from the PMC. Such reinstatement is subject to lazy consensus > > approval of active PMC members. > > https://storm.apache.org/contribute/BYLAWS.html > > > > If and Emeritus member choses to become active again, that can happen > with > > a very streamlined process. > > > > It appears that you cannot completely remove a member other than > > requesting and justifying the removal through the board. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Gregory Nutt <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2026 3:23 PM > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Hosting Espressif HAL under Apache umbrella > > > > > > > > > > > > We can propose removing committers and PMCs who are not involved in the > > project (ASF allows this; we need to notify them). > > > > Are you sure of this. I recall being told that once a committer, you are > > a committer for life. I do find this: > > > > Note it is possible to remove a committer's access to repositories in an > > urgent situation, such as their account being taken over by a hacker. > > However, the PMC chair should not take this action for situations such > as a > > committer's extended inactivity. In 2026, the ASF Security team is > working > > on proposals that may clarify the conditions under which a committer's > > rights to commit code can be suspended or removed. > > > > My case is different.. I am officially emeritus. Emeritus members are > > required to be listed on the project page, but did not follow that. See > > https://infra.apache.org/committers.html and > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/members > > > > Emeritus members can re-instate themselves immediately without a vote if > > the wish to become full members again. Note: A person must ask to be > made > > emeritus. I don't think that the PMC has authority to modify anyone's > > membership. > > > > >
