In my humble opinion, removing PMC / committers would be damaging to the
project. I'm active in other Apache projects and it's pretty common for
people to become inactive for a while and then get involved again at a
later time. Removing people from the project could send a message that
"you're not welcome here anymore."

Anyway this is a different subject than the HAL question, which is a
complex issue in itself.

Kind regards,
Nathan

On Wed, Oct 7, 2026 at 7:28 PM Gregory Nutt <[email protected]> wrote:

> There are quite a few updated ASF documents on this:
>
> About Emeritus members:  https://www.apache.org/forms/emeritus-request.pdf
>
> According to this, the PMC can convert a any member who has not been
> active for six months to Emeritus:  Committer is considered emeritus by
> their own declaration or by not contributing in any form to the project for
> over six months. An emeritus Committer may request reinstatement of commit
> access from the PMC. Such reinstatement is subject to lazy consensus
> approval of active PMC members.
> https://storm.apache.org/contribute/BYLAWS.html
>
> If and Emeritus member choses to become active again, that can happen with
> a very streamlined process.
>
> It appears that you cannot completely remove a member other than
> requesting and justifying the removal through the board.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gregory Nutt <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2026 3:23 PM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Hosting Espressif HAL under Apache umbrella
>
>
>
>
>
> We can propose removing committers and PMCs who are not involved in the
> project (ASF allows this; we need to notify them).
>
> Are you sure of this.  I recall being told that once a committer, you are
> a committer for life.  I do find this:
>
> Note it is possible to remove a committer's access to repositories in an
> urgent situation, such as their account being taken over by a hacker.
> However, the PMC chair should not take this action for situations such as a
> committer's extended inactivity. In 2026, the ASF Security team is working
> on proposals that may clarify the conditions under which a committer's
> rights to commit code can be suspended or removed.
>
> My case is different.. I am officially emeritus.  Emeritus members are
> required to be listed on the project page, but did not follow that.  See
> https://infra.apache.org/committers.html and
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/members
>
> Emeritus members can re-instate themselves immediately without a vote if
> the wish to become full members again.  Note:  A person must ask to be made
> emeritus.  I don't think that the PMC has authority to modify anyone's
> membership.
>
>

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