Hi, Thanks for the proposal Russell! JB also raised some fair points regarding use of trademarks.
We can adjust the proposal slightly to include the use of trademarks: """ The Apache Iceberg community supports Apache Iceberg meetups. The name "Apache Iceberg Meetup <geographical location>" may be used in compliance with https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html#approval. No explicit PMC approval is required. """ -Max On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 6:42 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > > Hi Ryan > > I just wanted to remind what should be done for meetups (a kind of context), > especially: > > "The VP, Brand Management, or the VP of the relevant Apache project, must > approve the use of Apache marks in any events run by third parties. This > includes conferences, meetups, get-togethers, and any other types of events. > Events must comply with this policy and have permission to use Apache marks > in the name of the event or in any of the primary branding, including website > domain names, for the event. > > Event branding and event organizers may not claim to be the organizers or > sole or exclusive leaders of any Apache project, nor claim to be the sole, > exclusive, or primary source of information for any Apache project." > > So, I think "lazy" approval should be fine, but I'm a bit "surprised" by "PMC > out of the meetup approval business" because: > 1. It's not necessary the PMC, it's VP Brand or VP of the project > 2. We have to be sure about the trademark use approval > > I wanted to emphasize that because, at foundation level, we highly care about > our marks. > > Thanks, > Regards > JB > > Le mar. 27 mai 2025 à 17:52, Ryan Blue <rdb...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >> JB, can you give us a bit more context about why you're recommending those >> pages? Do they have policies that already do what is being suggested? Do >> they impose limits that mean we could not do this? Without that information, >> I'm not sure what I'm looking for in those docs. >> >> On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 9:15 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Russell >>> >>> I would suggest to take a look on: >>> >>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html >>> >>> And >>> >>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#events >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> JB >>> >>> Le ven. 23 mai 2025 à 21:24, Russell Spitzer <russell.spit...@gmail.com> a >>> écrit : >>>> >>>> Hey Y'all >>>> >>>> I know there has been a lot of confusion over who is allowed to host a >>>> meetup and what it can be called. Technically, I believe the PMC is >>>> supposed >>>> to be involved in anything involving the Apache Iceberg trademark but I'd >>>> like >>>> to pre-approve a bunch of meetups if we have consensus. >>>> >>>> Basically I would like to get the PMC out of the meetup approval business >>>> as >>>> I think this is an unnecessarily high threshold for new meetups and may be >>>> biasing meetups towards locations where folks have connections to the PMC. >>>> If >>>> we do notice that a meetup group has issues we can always deal with it at >>>> that >>>> time. >>>> >>>> Proposal: >>>> The Apache Iceberg community allows any meetups to use Apache Iceberg in >>>> their >>>> meetup name in the format Apache Iceberg Meetup ***Some Geographic >>>> Location***. No >>>> other approval is required and PMC involvement is not required, but >>>> assistance will be >>>> gladly offered if asked. >>>> >>>> >>>> Please let me know what you think, >>>> Russ
