Hey Walaa,

I recognize the issue you're calling out but disagree there is an implicit
assumption in the spec.  The spec clearly says how identifiers including
catalogs and namespaces are represented/stored and how references need to
be resolved.  The idea that a catalog may not match is an
environmental/infrastructure/configuration issue related to where they are
being referenced from.

If we think this is sufficiently confusing to people, I would be open to
discussing an "unsupported configurations" callout, but I don't think this
blocks work and am somewhat skeptical that it's necessary.

-Dan



On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:47 PM Walaa Eldin Moustafa <wa.moust...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> I think there are a few questions that we should solve to decide the path
> forward:
>
> ** Does the current spec contain implicit assumptions?*
> I think the answer is yes. I think this is also what Ryan indicated here
> [1].
>
> ** Do these implicit assumptions make it difficult to adopt the spec or
> evolve it in the correct way?*
> I think the answer is yes as well. MV design discussions became quite
> complicated because most contributors had a different understanding of the
> spec compared to what it encodes as implicit assumptions (see this thread
> for an example [2] -- there are a few more). This unaligned understanding
> could possibly lead to inaccurate designs and potentially result in
> unneeded further constraints or unneeded engineering complexity.
>
> ** What are the implicit assumptions (in an ambiguous way)?*
> I do not think the answer is clear to everyone, even at this point. There
> have been a few variations of those assumptions in this thread alone. I
> think we should converge on a clear set of assumptions for everyone's
> consumption.
>
> ** Should we add the assumptions explicitly to the spec?*
> I think we definitely should. Adoption or extension of the spec will be
> quite difficult if the assumptions are not clearly stated and are
> interpreted differently by different contributors.
>
> Would be great to hear the community's feedback on whether they agree with
> the answers to the above questions.
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/s1hjnc163ny76smv2l0t2sxxn93s4595
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/0wzowd15328rnwvotzcoo4jrdyrzlx91
>
> Thanks,
> Walaa.
>

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