Thank you for chiming in, Jenn.

As you mention "problems our community faces with inclusivity" - would you mind mention a case of such a problem in the past? I was one of the mentors of this project (as in was a part of it from its early days in ASF), so I guess I am missing something in this regard. And it would help me to do my job better next time as a mentor of new projects.

Feel free to send me a private note if you feel uncomfortable to share this on dev@

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Thank you,
  Cos

On 2020-06-13 23:23, Jenn Strater wrote:
Hi everyone,

I find this thread especially the responses very educational in regards to the problems our community faces with inclusivity. I know my vote doesn't count, but +1 from me.

Jenn

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:59 AM Thibault Kruse <tibokr...@googlemail.com <mailto:tibokr...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

    On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 19:18 Alessio Stalla <alessiosta...@gmail.com
    <mailto:alessiosta...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Well, perhaps it ought to be "black" people who get to say
        whether they feel offended by white/blacklist, and in that E.
        Kemokai's answer is very valuable.


    Some expressions are non-inclusive even if no person were to feel
    offended by them. The typical case against "blacklist" can be found
    e.g here:
    
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/styleguide/inclusive_code.md

    "Terms such as “blacklist” and “whitelist” reinforce the notion that
    black==bad and white==good. 'That Word /Black'/, by Langston Hughes
    
<https://mcwriting11.blogspot.com/2014/06/that-word-black-by-langston-hughes.html>
 illustrates
    this problem in a lighthearted, if somewhat pointed way."

    This has been discussed so often online right now, it does not seem
    useful to discuss it again starting at zero without reference to an
    existing discussion.

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