Ladies — if any in this sad debate — and gentlemen,

> Well, perhaps it ought to be "black" people who get to say whether they feel 
> offended by white/blacklist

Indeed. Myself, I invariably find thoughts of Walter E. Williams highly worth 
studying. Amongst others, he also wrote

“The true test of one’s commitment to free speech comes when others are 
permitted to say and publish ideas they deem offensive 
<http://walterewilliams.com/our-free-speech-crisis/>.”

All the best,
OC

> On 13 Jun 2020, at 12:18, Alessio Stalla <alessiosta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, perhaps it ought to be "black" people who get to say whether they feel 
> offended by white/blacklist, and in that E. Kemokai's answer is very valuable.
> If we're doing this because someone is being hurt by some offending language, 
> then +1.
> If we're doing this to "be on the right side", then -1 for me as this doesn't 
> solve anyone's problem but our own fear of "being on the wrong side", and we 
> can be much more effective as a community if we actually do something 
> concrete against racism and other inequalities (off the top of my head: give 
> a spotlight to minority Groovy developers on official channels, create 
> sponsorship programs, etc.).
> 
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 08:41, Balachandran Sivakumar 
> <balachand...@balachandran.org <mailto:balachand...@balachandran.org>> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2020-06-13 07:45, MG wrote:
> > Believe me, I do so understand that - but as an atheist by choice from
> > a young age, I do not want to live in a deeply irrational world, where
> > everything you say can be considered racist or insensitive, even if
> > that makes no sense whatsoever, just because somebody believes it to
> > be that way.
> 
>       The problem we are trying to solve is "If something could be 
> offensive to even a small subset of people, let's try and avoid that as 
> much as possible".
> 
> And being "sensitive" is about how a person "feels". Rationalism deals 
> with "thought" and cannot be used with feelings :) So, this initiative 
> is a good one by all of us in an attempt to ensure that even the most 
> sensitive person feels "welcome" and included.
> 
> > The base of any free and just society for me needs to be reason and
> > concensus, not any part dictating their perceived truth to the other.
> 
>       This is a very true statement that we all should keep in mind in 
> any community effort. And here, like always, Paul did ask for 
> comments/thought :) And I am in favour of the aliases and gradual 
> deprecation of names that could be deemed offensive.
> 
> 
> --
> Thank you,
> Balachandran Sivakumar

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