Well said Carlos.
-----Original Message----- From: Carlos Velasco [mailto:carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:41 AM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player Let me say a couple of things: - First, no need for hates / haters here. If Erik is so concerned in getting FLEX into JS world, though I think it is not the best place to go, why shouldn't he go that path and what gives you the chance to talk him that way?. - Second, I think you Stephane lost many people that would please a new community based virtual machine for FLEX, me included, just because you are somehow walking in a way that seems more a "let's start a war" than anything else, so I think you should review your approach to get a better acceptance, if any, from the community. There are many people out there wishing for that VM, but you are performing so rudely that I think no-one is to follow your path. So, let me give you an advice. Be calm, talk with respect and maybe you'll get nearer your goal. 2015-01-20 8:06 GMT-03:00 Stephane Beladaci <adobeflexengin...@gmail.com>: > I hope you do realize you are the only one opposing the discussion I > started and your second agenda is so grossly driving the way you > handle this, I am actually embarrassed for you. > > Pick your side wisely, because I will keep you accountable for your > choices and the way you dealt with me today. I hope you will succeed > with JS where everyone before you failed. > > Funny, I had that discussion with people at Adone today, the company > started to stop talking about HTML5 and dumped They dumped PhoneGap. > > Meanwhile, marketing for Flash now can no longer bash the player. > Mentioning the use of the Flash IDE without the player is now no > longer allowed. > > Good luck to you guys! > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Stephane Beladaci < > adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Alright Erik, thank you for confirming my concern regarding the fact > > that Apache is no longer a good match for Flex. I started feel your > > change of direction already a while ago. > > > > Good luck killing Flex with JS. > > > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> > wrote: > > > >> >> Now, since this forum is dedicated to the development of Apache > >> >> Flex, can you maybe come to the point and discuss development > >> >> related issues? > >> > > >> > I take your point, but I can't think of a better forum to have > >> > this discussion on that we could suggest it be moved to. > >> > >> One of these come to mind: > >> > >> http://www.linkedin.com/today/author/5629395 > >> http://facebook.com/flexengineer > >> http://twitter.com/flexengineer > >> http://facebook.com/occupyhtml5 > >> > >> :-P > >> > >> All kidding aside, whatever comes out of this initiative, it is > >> clear that the effort involved will be huge. Also, as this only > >> tangentially concerns Apache Flex, I don't think it can be a > >> sub-project - keep in mind there are already 2 sub-projects devoted > >> to making Apache Flex independent of the Flash Player: FlexJS and VF2JS. > >> > >> So, my suggestion is that Stephane sets up a Github project and > >> starts getting together developers and other resources from that > >> base. This list is not a soapbox where you can rant against the > >> evil empires that supposedly ruined our favorite toy, nor is it a > >> recruitment platform for other open source projects. > >> > >> EdB > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Ix Multimedia Software > >> > >> Jan Luykenstraat 27 > >> 3521 VB Utrecht > >> > >> T. 06-51952295 > >> I. www.ixsoftware.nl > >> > > > > >
