Let me say a couple of things:

- First, no need for hates / haters here. If Erik is so concerned in
getting FLEX into JS world, though I think it is not the best place to go,
why shouldn't he go that path and what gives you the chance to talk him
that way?.

- Second, I think you Stephane lost many people that would please a new
community based virtual machine for FLEX, me included, just because you are
somehow walking in a way that seems more a "let's start a war" than
anything else, so I think you should review your approach to get a better
acceptance, if any, from the community. There are many people out there
wishing for that VM, but you are performing so rudely that I think no-one
is to follow your path.

So, let me give you an advice. Be calm, talk with respect and maybe you'll
get nearer your goal.



2015-01-20 8:06 GMT-03:00 Stephane Beladaci <adobeflexengin...@gmail.com>:

> I hope you do realize you are the only one opposing the discussion I
> started and your second agenda is so grossly driving the way you handle
> this, I am actually embarrassed for you.
>
> Pick your side wisely, because I will keep you accountable for your choices
> and the way you dealt with me today. I hope you will succeed with JS where
> everyone before you failed.
>
> Funny, I had that discussion with people at Adone today, the company
> started to stop talking about HTML5 and dumped They dumped PhoneGap.
>
> Meanwhile, marketing for Flash now can no longer bash the player.
> Mentioning the use of the Flash IDE without the player is now no longer
> allowed.
>
> Good luck to you guys!
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Stephane Beladaci <
> adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Alright Erik, thank you for confirming my concern regarding the fact that
> > Apache is no longer a good match for Flex. I started feel your change of
> > direction  already a while ago.
> >
> > Good luck killing Flex with JS.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> wrote:
> >
> >> >> Now, since this forum is dedicated to the development of Apache Flex,
> >> >> can you maybe come to the point and discuss development related
> >> >> issues?
> >> >
> >> > I take your point, but I can't think of a better forum to have this
> >> > discussion on that we could suggest it be moved to.
> >>
> >> One of these come to mind:
> >>
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/today/author/5629395
> >> http://facebook.com/flexengineer
> >> http://twitter.com/flexengineer
> >> http://facebook.com/occupyhtml5
> >>
> >> :-P
> >>
> >> All kidding aside, whatever comes out of this initiative, it is clear
> >> that the effort involved will be huge. Also, as this only tangentially
> >> concerns Apache Flex, I don't think it can be a sub-project - keep in
> >> mind there are already 2 sub-projects devoted to making Apache Flex
> >> independent of the Flash Player: FlexJS and VF2JS.
> >>
> >> So, my suggestion is that Stephane sets up a Github project and starts
> >> getting together developers and other resources from that base. This
> >> list is not a soapbox where you can rant against the evil empires that
> >> supposedly ruined our favorite toy, nor is it a recruitment platform
> >> for other open source projects.
> >>
> >> EdB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ix Multimedia Software
> >>
> >> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> 3521 VB Utrecht
> >>
> >> T. 06-51952295
> >> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >>
> >
> >
>

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