I have an historical note about Apple and Adobe.

Adobe would not exist without Apple and the generous $1,000 Postscript license 
fee for every LaserWriter that Apple paid Adobe in the mid-1980s.

Adobe was originally a Mac shop. 

Adobe switched to a Windows shop in the early 1990s. I think we can trace the 
break to that era.

I've heard that Bill Gates didn't like Adobe either and you could never give 
him a PDF....

Of course it is ancient history now ... it is so 20th century.

On Feb 11, 2015, at 7:43 AM, f...@dfguy.us wrote:

> Good stuff, yes all of us who actually knew flex and action script knew all 
> the claims in the thoughts letter weren't actually true at the time. Lies! :) 
> I did not know however that iPhone use the QuickTime plugin! Ha! Also, more 
> security risks in Firefox, chrome and IE, and OSX than Flash, that's 
> surprising.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Fréderic Cox" <coxfrede...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player
> 
> That is a great document Jude
> 
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:54 AM, jude <flexcapaci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I came across some more misinformation and decided to keep a document of
>> rebuttals and other info to refer back to when attempting to educate
>> people. I've posted it here,
>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UYbS1t6FInwqC1luYceYLzXDnQJe3L0DSQFi7KlIa5g/edit?usp=docslist_api
>> 
>> I'm trying to keep it unbiased. I need to add a pro's and con's section to
>> it.
>> 
>> Feel free to use it and add to it (contact me for edit permissions).
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, January 20, 2015, Stephane Beladaci <
>> adobeflexengin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This is not an official Adobe answer as I am not and have never been on
>>>> the player team, plus Adobe has a policy of not releasing staffing
>>>> numbers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Noted, and agreed... that is why I am getting those number using other
>>> methods :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Nick may have been right at one point in time when there was no
>>>> Adobe AIR and the Player only had to work on Mac and Windows without
>>> GPUs,
>>>> but OTOH, I am pretty sure that re-creating the Adobe runtimes from
>>>> scratch today would be a significant effort as the number of devices,
>>>> operating system versions, GPUs and other platform differences would
>> make
>>>> hardware abstraction a huge task.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At this point I am not trying to define whether it is going to be easy
>> task
>>> or not, the harder I am told it will be, the more motivated I am to find
>> a
>>> way :) At this point what I am trying to define is
>>> 
>>> 1/ how much we can reuse from what has been made open source over the
>> years
>>> 2/ what are the vital IP we will need to get from third parties and who
>> are
>>> those parties
>>> 3/ how much will need to be engineered on top of 1 and 2 to get a viable
>>> player running AS3 modern RIA on desktop browsers and mobile browsers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> IMO, that was a goal of the Open Screen
>>>> Project: to get the hardware and os vendors to take on the abstraction
>>>> load.  And I believe there are still terms-of-use issues around
>>>> interpreting byte code on some of these platforms.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Funny you mention OSP, Adobe has abandoned the trademarks and I acquired
>>> the. ThePlayer will be supported by the Open Screen Project as part of
>> the
>>> Open Screen Foundation. The domain name will be openscreen.org. I am
>> also
>>> in the process of reaching out to every companies involved in the Adobe
>>> effort, starting with all CEO featured in this video:
>>> 
>>> Top CEOs Advocate for Adobe Flash
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CwI227m-hs>
>>> 
>> 

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