Hi, In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document page. Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different regions and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do this kind of thing. Thanks On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Dave. > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June. [1] > > You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics and > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email, so > those who don't > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail account so > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account. > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know. > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to help make > decisions in the following emails. > > [1] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E > > Wenli > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi Wenli, > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I would like > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing list. > > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources are > > monitored. > > > > Regards, > > Dave > > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try. > > > > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji, similar to > > > Google Analytics. > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and Google > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the analytics > > of > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics misses 50% > of > > > page views from China. > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google > Analytics. > > > > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of Google > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But neither of > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may not be > a > > > big issue. > > > > > > Wenli > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi - > > >> > > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new JIRA at > > this > > >> time. > > >> > > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif which are > > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I would > like > > to > > >> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing list, > > >> > > >> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried: > > >> > > >> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent) > > >> > > >> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org < > > >> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org> > > >> > > >> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask INFRA to > > switch > > >> CDNs. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Dave > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month, > probably > > >>> because it's been closed. > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919 > > >>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it? > > >>> > > >>> Wenli > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org > > > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Done. > > >>>> > > >>>> On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote: > > >>>>> Hi Kevin, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and continue > > our > > >>>>> discussion there? > > >>>>> It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on JIRA and > > with > > >>>>> email. > > >>>>> Thanks! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Wenli > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail < > kmcgr...@apache.org > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote: > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Kevin. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1]. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from Baidu > but > > >> need > > >>>>>>> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this > > approach. > > >>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919 > > >>>>>>> Wenli > > >>>>>> So the goals I see are: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF > > >> Infrastructure > > >>>>>> is goal #1 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and a CDN > to > > >>>>>> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely necessary... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that makes > things > > >>>>>> more usable for people from China. For me, I thought about all > our > > >>>>>> policies and Apache Way. I believe done with these steps laid > out, > > it > > >>>>>> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to decide: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that runs on a > > >>>>>> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically is > synced > > >>>> from > > >>>>>> the echarts.apache.org server. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that > > >> recommends/links > > >>>>>> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they have > > issues. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g., > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > > https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>> Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are just a > few > > >>>>>> seconds slow and people don't complain about it because it's a > > >> download > > >>>>>> more than an interactive website? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial impacts to > the > > >> ASF > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure to > > follow > > >>>>>> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see > > >>>>>> > > >> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf) > > >>>>>> which basically means it has to be approved. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Hope this helps, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> KAM > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Kevin A. McGrail > > >>>> kmcgr...@apache.org > > >>>> > > >>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation > > >>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org > > > > > -- Yi Shen Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
