Hi, I think it's time to make a conclusion on the ECharts Website topic.
After some tests from varied places and time, we think the CDN is helping to some extent. But it still occurs that sometimes the Website is not accessible somewhere inside China, or is unacceptably slow. In the previous discussions, we talked about the possibility of making a mirror site inside China with the domain name of echartsjs.com, where we should clarify that this is a mirror site to echarts.apache.org. I'm sending this email to make sure that you are all OK with this solution. And I will work on this in a week or two if you agree. Thanks Wenli On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:58 AM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, I've opened a JIRA issue: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19436 > > Wenli > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:49 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> It is good to hear that the CDN thing is making progress. :) >> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >> >> Apache SkyWalking >> Apache Incubator >> Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings >> Zipkin >> Twitter, wusheng1108 >> >> >> SHUANG SU <sushuang0...@gmail.com> 于2019年11月14日周四 上午4:34写道： >> >> > Hi Dave, >> > >> > > 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <http://echarts.apache.org/> >> > >> > I have been testing this CDN for a while in the network of my working >> place >> > and home in Beijing. >> > It seams faster then the current CDN. The speed is not unacceptable in >> the >> > most place but >> > somewhere and sometime there are little slow cases. >> > >> > Shall we change our current CDN to this new CDN above? It probably >> provide >> > better speed. >> > And I can also test it in different place around China via some >> services. >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > ------------------------------ >> > Su Shuang (100pah) >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:14, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Hi York, >> > > >> > > We are still testing the speed of the new CDN. >> > > >> > > In the meantime, do you have any comparing numbers about the speed >> before >> > > and after Weex using this CDN? >> > > >> > > Thanks! >> > > >> > > Wenli >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM YorkShen <ky...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request. >> > > > >> > > > FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait >> several >> > > hours >> > > > for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website. >> But if >> > > you >> > > > visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then >> everything >> > > takes >> > > > effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the >> experimental >> > > CDN. >> > > > >> > > > Best Regards, >> > > > YorkShen >> > > > >> > > > 申远 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道： >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn. >> > > > > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how >> we >> > > > could >> > > > > enable it? >> > > > > >> > > > > Wenli >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen <ky...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> Hi, there >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a >> committer >> > > and >> > > > >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but >> > > > things go >> > > > >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I >> hope >> > > this >> > > > >> could also solve your problem. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406 >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Best Regards, >> > > > >> York Shen >> > > > >> >> > > > >> 申远 >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different >> countries. >> > > > >> > 1. Open google analytics >> > > > >> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings >> > > > >> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev >> > mailing >> > > > >> list, >> > > > >> > so I will skip the screenshot. :) >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Wenli >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com >> > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > Hi, >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each >> > document >> > > > >> page. >> > > > >> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes. >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in >> > > different >> > > > >> regions >> > > > >> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics >> > can't >> > > > do >> > > > >> this >> > > > >> > > kind of thing. >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Thanks >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia < >> oviliazh...@gmail.com> >> > > > >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Thanks Dave. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on >> 13th >> > > > >> June. [1] >> > > > >> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google >> > > > Analytics >> > > > >> and >> > > > >> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail >> for >> > > > email, >> > > > >> so >> > > > >> > > > those who don't >> > > > >> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your >> > gmail >> > > > >> account >> > > > >> > > so >> > > > >> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let >> me >> > > know. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this >> data >> > > to >> > > > >> help >> > > > >> > > make >> > > > >> > > > decisions in the following emails. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > [1] >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Wenli >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher < >> w...@apache.org >> > > >> > > > >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi Wenli, >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics >> > files. I >> > > > >> would >> > > > >> > > like >> > > > >> > > > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are >> used >> > to >> > > > make >> > > > >> > > > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this >> > > mailing >> > > > >> list. >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's >> > > resources >> > > > >> are >> > > > >> > > > > monitored. >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards, >> > > > >> > > > > Dave >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia < >> > oviliazh...@gmail.com >> > > > >> > > > >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Hi Dave, >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have >> a >> > > try. >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu >> > Tongji, >> > > > >> similar >> > > > >> > > to >> > > > >> > > > > > Google Analytics. >> > > > >> > > > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu >> > Tongji >> > > > and >> > > > >> > > Google >> > > > >> > > > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji >> misses >> > > the >> > > > >> > > analytics >> > > > >> > > > > of >> > > > >> > > > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google >> Analytics >> > > > >> misses 50% >> > > > >> > > > of >> > > > >> > > > > > page views from China. >> > > > >> > > > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and >> > > Google >> > > > >> > > > Analytics. >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like >> analytics.js >> > > of >> > > > >> Google >> > > > >> > > > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. >> > But >> > > > >> neither >> > > > >> > > of >> > > > >> > > > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I >> > think >> > > > may >> > > > >> not >> > > > >> > > be >> > > > >> > > > a >> > > > >> > > > > > big issue. >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Wenli >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher < >> > > w...@apache.org >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> Hi - >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in >> creating a >> > > new >> > > > >> JIRA >> > > > >> > > at >> > > > >> > > > > this >> > > > >> > > > > >> time. >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and >> > hm.gif >> > > > >> which >> > > > >> > > are >> > > > >> > > > > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from >> > Baidu. >> > > I >> > > > >> would >> > > > >> > > > like >> > > > >> > > > > to >> > > > >> > > > > >> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ >> > > > mailing >> > > > >> list, >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried: >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent) >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org < >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can >> > ask >> > > > >> INFRA to >> > > > >> > > > > switch >> > > > >> > > > > >> CDNs. >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> Regards, >> > > > >> > > > > >> Dave >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia < >> > > oviliazh...@gmail.com> >> > > > >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for >> a >> > > > month, >> > > > >> > > > probably >> > > > >> > > > > >>> because it's been closed. >> > > > >> > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919 >> > > > >> > > > > >>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it? >> > > > >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>> Wenli >> > > > >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail < >> > > > >> > > kmcgr...@apache.org >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> Done. >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> Hi Kevin, >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA >> [1] >> > > and >> > > > >> > > continue >> > > > >> > > > > our >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> discussion there? >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation >> both >> > on >> > > > >> JIRA and >> > > > >> > > > > with >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> email. >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> Thanks! >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> [1] >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919 >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> Wenli >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail < >> > > > >> > > > kmcgr...@apache.org >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Kevin. >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1]. >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover >> it >> > > from >> > > > >> Baidu >> > > > >> > > > but >> > > > >> > > > > >> need >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> further discussion on the details if we decide to >> > take >> > > > >> this >> > > > >> > > > > approach. >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> [1] >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919 >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> Wenli >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> So the goals I see are: >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running >> on >> > > ASF >> > > > >> > > > > >> Infrastructure >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> is goal #1 >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF >> > InfraStructure >> > > > >> and a >> > > > >> > > CDN >> > > > >> > > > to >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely >> > > > >> necessary... >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website >> > that >> > > > >> makes >> > > > >> > > > things >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> more usable for people from China. For me, I >> thought >> > > > >> about all >> > > > >> > > > our >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> policies and Apache Way. I believe done with >> these >> > > steps >> > > > >> laid >> > > > >> > > > out, >> > > > >> > > > > it >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the >> project to >> > > > >> decide: >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing >> different, >> > > that >> > > > >> runs >> > > > >> > > on a >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and >> > > > automatically >> > > > >> is >> > > > >> > > > synced >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> from >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> the echarts.apache.org server. >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh >> > that >> > > > >> > > > > >> recommends/links >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed >> if >> > > they >> > > > >> have >> > > > >> > > > > issues. >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> - Release downloads still link to ASF >> Infrastructure, >> > > > e.g., >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> . >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> Question: are downloads problematically slow or >> they >> > > are >> > > > >> just a >> > > > >> > > > few >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> seconds slow and people don't complain about it >> > because >> > > > >> it's a >> > > > >> > > > > >> download >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> more than an interactive website? >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no >> financial >> > > > >> impacts to >> > > > >> > > > the >> > > > >> > > > > >> ASF >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> - If any recognition of the donation is given, we >> > make >> > > > >> sure to >> > > > >> > > > > follow >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf) >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> which basically means it has to be approved. >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> Hope this helps, >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> KAM >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > > > dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> > > > >> dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> -- >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> Kevin A. McGrail >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> kmcgr...@apache.org >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > > dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> > > > dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: >> > dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > -- >> > > > >> > > Yi Shen >> > > > >> > > Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
