Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we could
enable it?

Wenli


On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen <ky...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi, there
>
> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but things go
> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
> could also solve your problem.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
>
> Best Regards,
> York Shen
>
> 申远
>
> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> > 1. Open google analytics
> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> >
> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
> list,
> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document page.
> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> > >
> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
> regions
> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
> this
> > > kind of thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Dave.
> > > >
> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June.
> [1]
> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
> and
> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
> so
> > > > those who don't
> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
> account
> > > so
> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> > > >
> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
> help
> > > make
> > > > decisions in the following emails.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > > > Wenli
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Wenli,
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
> would
> > > like
> > > > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> > > > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
> list.
> > > > >
> > > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
> are
> > > > > monitored.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
> similar
> > > to
> > > > > > Google Analytics.
> > > > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
> > > Google
> > > > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
> > > analytics
> > > > > of
> > > > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
> misses 50%
> > > > of
> > > > > > page views from China.
> > > > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> > > > Analytics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
> Google
> > > > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
> neither
> > > of
> > > > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
> not
> > > be
> > > > a
> > > > > > big issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wenli
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi -
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
> JIRA
> > > at
> > > > > this
> > > > > >> time.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
> which
> > > are
> > > > > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
> would
> > > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing
> list,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
> > > > > >>
> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask
> INFRA to
> > > > > switch
> > > > > >> CDNs.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > >> Dave
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month,
> > > > probably
> > > > > >>> because it's been closed.
> > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > > > > >>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Wenli
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > > kmcgr...@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Done.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> Hi Kevin,
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and
> > > continue
> > > > > our
> > > > > >>>>> discussion there?
> > > > > >>>>> It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on
> JIRA and
> > > > > with
> > > > > >>>>> email.
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Wenli
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > > > kmcgr...@apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Kevin.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from
> Baidu
> > > > but
> > > > > >> need
> > > > > >>>>>>> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this
> > > > > approach.
> > > > > >>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> > > > > >>>>>>> Wenli
> > > > > >>>>>> So the goals I see are:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF
> > > > > >> Infrastructure
> > > > > >>>>>> is goal #1
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and
> a
> > > CDN
> > > > to
> > > > > >>>>>> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely
> necessary...
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that
> makes
> > > > things
> > > > > >>>>>> more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about
> all
> > > > our
> > > > > >>>>>> policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps
> laid
> > > > out,
> > > > > it
> > > > > >>>>>> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to
> decide:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that
> runs
> > > on a
> > > > > >>>>>> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically
> is
> > > > synced
> > > > > >>>> from
> > > > > >>>>>> the echarts.apache.org server.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that
> > > > > >> recommends/links
> > > > > >>>>>> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they
> have
> > > > > issues.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g.,
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
> > > > > >>>>>> .
> > > > > >>>>>> Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are
> just a
> > > > few
> > > > > >>>>>> seconds slow and people don't complain about it because
> it's a
> > > > > >> download
> > > > > >>>>>> more than an interactive website?
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial
> impacts to
> > > > the
> > > > > >> ASF
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure
> to
> > > > > follow
> > > > > >>>>>> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
> > > > > >>>>>> which basically means it has to be approved.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Hope this helps,
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> KAM
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >
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> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > >>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > >>>> kmcgr...@apache.org
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > >>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yi Shen
> > > Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > >
> >
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