Then launch this PMC chair vote as soon as possible
I support Mingyu to be this Chair.
+1
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"dev"
<lingm...@apache.org>;
????????: 2022??4??2??(??????) ????10:52
??????: "dev"<dev@doris.apache.org>;
????: Re: Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris
(Incubating) as a TLP
Maybe we should open a new thread to vote the PMC Chair ~
Ling Miao
De Li <l...@apache.org> ??2022??4??2?????? 10:45??????
> I very agree with Willem Jiang.
> Here is my +1 for Mingyu as the PMC Chair.
>
> ---
> lide-reed
> l...@apache.org
>
> On 2022/04/02 02:36:59 Willem Jiang wrote:
> > We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
> > to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
> > For the PMC Chair, I'm a big +1 for Mingyu, as he did a good job as a
> > leader during the incubation process of Apache Doris.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: ????willem
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM ?????? <morning...@163.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and
discuss
> about it.
> > > This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the
> nomination of the PMC Chair.
> > > The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports
to the
> board about the health and status of their project.
> > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list,
and
> be aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > >
> > >
> > > As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > > During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and
push
> things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other
> ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs
and you
> are
> > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start
our vote
> soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > >
> > >
> > > =========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
> > > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> > >
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of
> > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> establish
> > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> maintenance
> > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
public,
> > > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for
reporting
> > > and analysis.
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee
> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby
is
> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it
further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is
responsible
> for
> > > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> > > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and
be it
> > > further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be
and
> > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache
Doris
> > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris
> Project;
> > > and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are
> > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris
Project:
> > >
> > >
> > > * Bin
Ling
<ling...@apache.org>
> > > * Bo
Wang
<wan...@apache.org>
> > > * Chaoyong Li
<lichaoy...@apache.org>
> > > * Chun
Zhao <zh...@apache.org>
> > > * Conghui Cai
<caicong...@apache.org>
> > > * Dayue
Gao <gaoda...@apache.org>
> > > * De
Li
<l...@apache.org>
> > > * Hangyuan Liu
<liuhangy...@apache.org>
> > > * Hao
Chen
<chen...@apache.org>
> > > * HaoPeng Li
<lihaop...@apache.org>
> > > * Jiafeng Zhang
<jiafengzh...@apache.org>
> > > * Kaisen Kang
<kangkai...@apache.org>
> > > * Ling
Miao <lingm...@apache.org>
> > > * Ming
Wen
<wenm...@apache.org>
> > > * Mingyu Chen
<morning...@apache.org>
> > > * Ruyue
Ma <maru...@apache.org>
> > > * Shao Feng Shi
<shaofeng...@apache.org>
> > > * Sijie
Guo <si...@apache.org>
> > > * Willem Ning Jiang <ningji...@apache.org>
> > > * Zheng Shao
<zs...@apache.org>
> > > * Zhengguo Yang
<yang...@apache.org>
> > > * Zuo
Wei
<wei...@apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be
appointed
> to
> > > the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in
accordance with
> > > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
Bylaws
> of
> > > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked
with
> the
> > > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris
podling;
> and
> > > be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator
> > > Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
hereafter
> > > discharged.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > ??????Best Regards
> > > ?????? Mingyu Chen
> > >
> > > Email:
> > > chenmin...@apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ?? 2022-03-31 14:47:42??"ling miao" <lingm...@apache.org>
??????
> > > >Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
> > > >
> > > >What preparations are we missing before launching a community
> discussion at
> > > >IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
> > > >
> > > >Ling Miao
> > > >
> > > >?????? <morning...@163.com> ??2022??3??29??????
20:23??????
> > > >
> > > >> Hi All,
> > > >> Since the last discussion, we have done the following
based on
> suggestions.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and
doris-mananger from
> the
> > > >> Doris repo into three separate repo.
> > > >>
> > > >> -
https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
> > > >>
> > > >> -
https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
> > > >>
> > > >> -
https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
> > > >> so that we can release these
modules independently.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and
flink-connector
> components.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
> > > >> 2.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on
at IPMC.
> > > >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris
graduation
> issues now.
> > > >> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing
the
> Resolution and
> > > >> start a discussion at IPMC
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> ??????Best Regards
> > > >> ?????? Mingyu Chen
> > > >>
> > > >> Email:
> > > >> chenmin...@apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ?? 2022-02-10 15:01:27??"Yun Tang"
<tang...@apache.org> ??????
> > > >> >Thanks for the explanations.
> > > >> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Best
> > > >> >Yun Tang
> > > >> >
> > > >> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 ?????? wrote:
> > > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot
open the thread
> links. Are
> > > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is
public, maybe we
> could
> > > >> at least give some background information.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris
list. It is about
> "doris" on
> > > >> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
> > > >> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the
"cdwdoris" will be solved
> at the
> > > >> end of Feb.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> ??????Best Regards
> > > >> >> ?????? Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Email:
> > > >> >> chenmin...@apache.org
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> ?? 2022-02-10 11:23:33??"Yun Tang"
<tang...@apache.org> ??????
> > > >> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache
Doris' graduation
> from the
> > > >> incubator!
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot
open the thread
> links. Are
> > > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is
public, maybe we
> could
> > > >> at least give some background information.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Best
> > > >> >> >Yun Tang
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 ?????? wrote:
> > > >> >> >> +1. I think we can get started
on the graduation process.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> ?????? <morning...@163.com>
??2022??2??9?????? 22:26??????
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > >For the relationship of the
Impala project, I think we
> need to
> > > >> get in
> > > >> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team
to get more feedback.Before
> entering
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was
developed based on a very early
> > > >> version of
> > > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris'
architecture (both metadata and
> > > >> planning are
> > > >> >> >> > in FE), we have made many
changes.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > After entering the apache
incubator, we try to give back
> some new
> > > >> features
> > > >> >> >> > to the Impala community
including Grouping set [1], left
> join ->
> > > >> inner join
> > > >> >> >> > [2], etc.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Although we raised tickets,
after communicating with Impala
> PMC,
> > > >> we found
> > > >> >> >> > that new features we wanted to
give back to Impala have been
> > > >> implemented.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > So in the end there is no
substantial code contribution.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Both communities are iterating
rapidly at their own pace,
> and many
> > > >> common
> > > >> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part,
but only in terms of
> > > >> functionality, with
> > > >> >> >> > significant differences at the
code level.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > [1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > [2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > --
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > ??????Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > ?????? Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Email:
> > > >> >> >> > chenmin...@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > ?? 2022-02-09 14:43:10??"??????"
<morning...@163.com> ??????
> > > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention
about the recent release of Java
> code,
> > > >> it's
> > > >> >> >> > >>better to add another
git repo to host the java code for
> the
> > > >> maven
> > > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any
sense that we have different tags for
> the
> > > >> java
> > > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like
to see this issue addressed before
> > > >> graduation.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I
will start a new thread to
> discuss
> > > >> it. I
> > > >> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a
good way to address this
> issue.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >--
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >??????Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > >?????? Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Email:
> > > >> >> >> > >chenmin...@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25,
"Willem Jiang" <
> willem.ji...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris
did lots of work on building up
> the
> > > >> community.
> > > >> >> >> > >>The brand issues were
addressed last year.
> > > >> >> >> > >>For the relationship of
the Impala project, I think we
> need to
> > > >> get in
> > > >> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala
team to get more feedback.
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention
about the recent release of Java
> code,
> > > >> it's
> > > >> >> >> > >>better to add another
git repo to host the java code for
> the
> > > >> maven
> > > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any
sense that we have different tags for
> the
> > > >> java
> > > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like
to see this issue addressed before
> > > >> graduation.
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
> > > >> >> >> > >>Weibo: ????willem
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at
3:09 PM ?????? <morning...@163.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris
(Incubating) has been in development for
> over 3
> > > >> years
> > > >> >> >> > since it entered the Apache
incubator in September 2018.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> During our time in
the Incubator, we have learned a lot
> about
> > > >> open
> > > >> >> >> > source software governance and
the Apache Foundation's
> philosophy
> > > >> on
> > > >> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and
developing open source community.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to
conduct a discussion here on matters
> related
> > > >> to Doris'
> > > >> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> The following is a
brief overview of the progress of
> the Doris
> > > >> project
> > > >> >> >> > and community since entering the
incubator.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five
different
> > > >> companies,
> > > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of
PPMC members to 21.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> - 16 new Committers were added (including
the new
> PPMC
> > > >> members),
> > > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of
Committers to 29.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> - The number of Contributors is now 245
and growing.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has
289
> > > >> subscribers, and
> > > >> >> >> > all major project discussions
are happening in the
> dev@doris.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All
compliance
> issues
> > > >> have
> > > >> >> >> > been resolved.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant
with Apache
> > > >> Foundation
> > > >> >> >> > requirements[2].
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> - Project maturity model is detailed in
[3].
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> - We have also created a pre-graduation
Check
> List[4]
> > > >> following
> > > >> >> >> > the Apache official website
guidelines and are currently
> moving
> > > >> forward.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Some things that I
think need further discussion.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> Doris had some branding issues during the
> > > >> incubating[5][6]. I
> > > >> >> >> > think these issues have been
resolved and would appreciate
> the
> > > >> mentors'
> > > >> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship
with Apache Impala
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> Doris' current query engine is forked from
Impala
> version
> > > >> v0.7 and
> > > >> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in
the early stages of the
> project
> > > >> (hands-on
> > > >> >> >> > code merge).
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed
our desire
> to
> > > >> decouple the
> > > >> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the
query engine through a layer
> of
> > > >> abstract API.
> > > >> >> >> > So that the query layer could
fully follow Impala's
> evolution.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> However, as the project progressed, we
found it
> difficult
> > > >> to
> > > >> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for
the following reasons.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> 1. Impala focus on providing query
acceleration on
> the
> > > >> Hadoop
> > > >> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on
a standalone data warehouse
> or
> > > >> DBMS system.
> > > >> >> >> > The difference of targets means
that many features do not
> meet the
> > > >> needs of
> > > >> >> >> > both projects.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the
metadata and
> has
> > > >> its own
> > > >> >> >> > storage engine. This required a
deep integration of the
> query
> > > >> layer with
> > > >> >> >> > the metadata and the storage
engine. We also made a lot of
> > > >> architectural
> > > >> >> >> > changes for this.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized
> execution
> > > >> engine that
> > > >> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution
node in query layer, which is
> > > >> different from
> > > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us
to
> continue to
> > > >> follow
> > > >> >> >> > the Impala community with code
level iterations and
> integrations.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> Of course, all code references to Impala
are fully
> > > >> compliant with
> > > >> >> >> > the Apache License, and we
explicitly declare the
> relationship
> > > >> between
> > > >> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE
file[8] and the README
> file[9] and
> > > >> thank the
> > > >> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> >
>>> Since this aspect deviates from the
direction in the
> > > >> original
> > > >> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be
listed separately for
> necessary
> > > >> discussion.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> If there are any
other aspects that need to be
> discussed before
> > > >> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [1]
http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [2]
https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [3]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
>
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [4]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [5]
> > > >>
https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [6]
> > > >>
https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [7]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
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