I very agree with Willem Jiang.
Here is my +1 for Mingyu as the PMC Chair.

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On 2022/04/02 02:36:59 Willem Jiang wrote:
> We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
> to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
> For the PMC Chair, I'm a big +1 for Mingyu, as he did a good job as a
> leader during the incubation process of Apache Doris.
> 
> Willem Jiang
> 
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> 
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and discuss about 
> > it.
> > This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the nomination 
> > of the PMC Chair.
> > The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports to the board 
> > about the health and status of their project.
> > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be 
> > aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for 
> > working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
> >
> >
> > As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and push 
> > things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other 
> > ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
> >
> >
> > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
> > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote soon.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> >
> >
> > =========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
> > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> >
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> > and analysis.
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
> > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> > further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
> > and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
> >
> >
> >  * Bin Ling          <ling...@apache.org>
> >  * Bo Wang           <wan...@apache.org>
> >  * Chaoyong Li       <lichaoy...@apache.org>
> >  * Chun Zhao         <zh...@apache.org>
> >  * Conghui Cai       <caicong...@apache.org>
> >  * Dayue Gao         <gaoda...@apache.org>
> >  * De Li             <l...@apache.org>
> >  * Hangyuan Liu      <liuhangy...@apache.org>
> >  * Hao Chen          <chen...@apache.org>
> >  * HaoPeng Li        <lihaop...@apache.org>
> >  * Jiafeng Zhang     <jiafengzh...@apache.org>
> >  * Kaisen Kang       <kangkai...@apache.org>
> >  * Ling Miao         <lingm...@apache.org>
> >  * Ming Wen          <wenm...@apache.org>
> >  * Mingyu Chen       <morning...@apache.org>
> >  * Ruyue Ma          <maru...@apache.org>
> >  * Shao Feng Shi     <shaofeng...@apache.org>
> >  * Sijie Guo         <si...@apache.org>
> >  * Willem Ning Jiang <ningji...@apache.org>
> >  * Zheng Shao        <zs...@apache.org>
> >  * Zhengguo Yang     <yang...@apache.org>
> >  * Zuo Wei           <wei...@apache.org>
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
> > the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
> > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
> > be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > discharged.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > 此致!Best Regards
> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> >
> > Email:
> > chenmin...@apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 在 2022-03-31 14:47:42,"ling miao" <lingm...@apache.org> 写道:
> > >Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
> > >
> > >What preparations are we missing before launching a community discussion at
> > >IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
> > >
> > >Ling Miao
> > >
> > >陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道:
> > >
> > >> Hi All,
> > >> Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on 
> > >> suggestions.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from the
> > >> Doris repo into three separate repo.
> > >>
> > >>     - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
> > >>
> > >>     - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
> > >>
> > >>     - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
> > >>     so that we can release these modules independently.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector 
> > >> components.
> > >>
> > >>     1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
> > >>     2. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC.
> > >>     https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation issues now.
> > >> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the Resolution and
> > >> start a discussion at IPMC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> 此致!Best Regards
> > >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >>
> > >> Email:
> > >> chenmin...@apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27,"Yun Tang" <tang...@apache.org> 写道:
> > >> >Thanks for the explanations.
> > >> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
> > >> >
> > >> >Best
> > >> >Yun Tang
> > >> >
> > >> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote:
> > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
> > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
> > >> at least give some background information.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about "doris" on
> > >> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
> > >> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved at the
> > >> end of Feb.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 此致!Best Regards
> > >> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Email:
> > >> >> chenmin...@apache.org
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33,"Yun Tang" <tang...@apache.org> 写道:
> > >> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation from the
> > >> incubator!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
> > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
> > >> at least give some background information.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Best
> > >> >> >Yun Tang
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote:
> > >> >> >> +1.  I think we can get started on the graduation process.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
> > >> get in
> > >> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before entering
> > >> the
> > >> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early
> > >> version of
> > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and
> > >> planning are
> > >> >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back some new
> > >> features
> > >> >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left join ->
> > >> inner join
> > >> >> >> > [2], etc.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala PMC,
> > >> we found
> > >> >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been
> > >> implemented.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace, and 
> > >> >> >> > many
> > >> common
> > >> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
> > >> functionality, with
> > >> >> >> > significant differences at the code level.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > --
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > 此致!Best Regards
> > >> >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Email:
> > >> >> >> > chenmin...@apache.org
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10,"陈明雨" <morning...@163.com> 写道:
> > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
> > >> it's
> > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
> > >> maven
> > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
> > >> java
> > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > >> graduation.
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to discuss
> > >> it. I
> > >> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this issue.
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >--
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >此致!Best Regards
> > >> >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >Email:
> > >> >> >> > >chenmin...@apache.org
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up the
> > >> community.
> > >> >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year.
> > >> >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
> > >> get in
> > >> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
> > >> it's
> > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
> > >> maven
> > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
> > >> java
> > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > >> graduation.
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
> > >> >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for over 3
> > >> years
> > >> >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot about
> > >> open
> > >> >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's philosophy
> > >> on
> > >> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters related
> > >> to Doris'
> > >> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the 
> > >> >> >> > >>> Doris
> > >> project
> > >> >> >> > and community since entering the incubator.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different
> > >> companies,
> > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     - 16 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC
> > >> members),
> > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289
> > >> subscribers, and
> > >> >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues
> > >> have
> > >> >> >> > been resolved.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache
> > >> Foundation
> > >> >> >> > requirements[2].
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     - Project maturity model is detailed in [3].
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[4]
> > >> following
> > >> >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving
> > >> forward.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     Doris had some branding issues during the
> > >> incubating[5][6]. I
> > >> >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate the
> > >> mentors'
> > >> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version
> > >> v0.7 and
> > >> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project
> > >> (hands-on
> > >> >> >> > code merge).
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire to
> > >> decouple the
> > >> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer of
> > >> abstract API.
> > >> >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult
> > >> to
> > >> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the
> > >> Hadoop
> > >> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or
> > >> DBMS system.
> > >> >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not meet 
> > >> >> >> > the
> > >> needs of
> > >> >> >> > both projects.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has
> > >> its own
> > >> >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the query
> > >> layer with
> > >> >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of
> > >> architectural
> > >> >> >> > changes for this.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution
> > >> engine that
> > >> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is
> > >> different from
> > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to
> > >> follow
> > >> >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and integrations.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     Of course, all code references to Impala are fully
> > >> compliant with
> > >> >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship
> > >> between
> > >> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README file[9] and
> > >> thank the
> > >> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>     Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the
> > >> original
> > >> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for necessary
> > >> discussion.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be discussed 
> > >> >> >> > >>> before
> > >> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [3]
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [4]
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [5]
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [6]
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [7]
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [8]
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [9]
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> --
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 此致!Best Regards
> > >> >> >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Email:
> > >> >> >> > >>> chenmin...@apache.org
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> >
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