Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation. What preparations are we missing before launching a community discussion at IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
Ling Miao 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道： > Hi All, > Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on suggestions. > > > > 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from the > Doris repo into three separate repo. > > - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager > > - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector > > - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector > so that we can release these modules independently. > > > > > 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector components. > > 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z > 2. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj > > > 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC. > https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt > > > > > I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation issues now. > If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the Resolution and > start a discussion at IPMC > > > > -- > > 此致！Best Regards > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen > > Email: > chenmin...@apache.org > > > > > > 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27，"Yun Tang" <tang...@apache.org> 写道： > >Thanks for the explanations. > >+ 1 for starting the graduation process. > > > >Best > >Yun Tang > > > >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote: > >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are > they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could > at least give some background information. > >> > >> > >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about "doris" on > Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud. > >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved at the > end of Feb. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> 此致！Best Regards > >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen > >> > >> Email: > >> chenmin...@apache.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <tang...@apache.org> 写道： > >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation from the > incubator! > >> > > >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are > they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could > at least give some background information. > >> > > >> >Best > >> >Yun Tang > >> > > >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote: > >> >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process. > >> >> > >> >> 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道： > >> >> > >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to > get in > >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before entering > the > >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early > version of > >> >> > Impala. > >> >> > > >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and > planning are > >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back some new > features > >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left join -> > inner join > >> >> > [2], etc. > >> >> > > >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala PMC, > we found > >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been > implemented. > >> >> > > >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace, and many > common > >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of > functionality, with > >> >> > significant differences at the code level. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298 > >> >> > > >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > > >> >> > 此致！Best Regards > >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen > >> >> > > >> >> > Email: > >> >> > chenmin...@apache.org > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <morning...@163.com> 写道： > >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code, > it's > >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the > maven > >> >> > >>release. > >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the > java > >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before > graduation. > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to discuss > it. I > >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this issue. > >> >> > > > >> >> > >-- > >> >> > > > >> >> > >此致！Best Regards > >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Email: > >> >> > >chenmin...@apache.org > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <willem.ji...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up the > community. > >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year. > >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to > get in > >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code, > it's > >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the > maven > >> >> > >>release. > >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the > java > >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before > graduation. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>Willem Jiang > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang > >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> wrote: > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> Hi all. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for over 3 > years > >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot about > open > >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's philosophy > on > >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters related > to Doris' > >> >> > graduation from the incubator. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris > project > >> >> > and community since entering the incubator. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> 1. Community > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different > companies, > >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC > members), > >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289 > subscribers, and > >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> 2. Project > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues > have > >> >> > been resolved. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache > Foundation > >> >> > requirements[2]. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3]. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[4] > following > >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving > forward. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the > incubating[5][6]. I > >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate the > mentors' > >> >> > assistance in checking them out. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version > v0.7 and > >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project > (hands-on > >> >> > code merge). > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire to > decouple the > >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer of > abstract API. > >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult > to > >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the > Hadoop > >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or > DBMS system. > >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not meet the > needs of > >> >> > both projects. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has > its own > >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the query > layer with > >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of > architectural > >> >> > changes for this. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution > engine that > >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is > different from > >> >> > Impala. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to > follow > >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and integrations. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully > compliant with > >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship > between > >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README file[9] and > thank the > >> >> > Impala community for their help. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the > original > >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for necessary > discussion. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be discussed before > >> >> > graduation, please discuss. > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/ > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> [3] > >> >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> [4] > >> >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> [5] > https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> [6] > https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9 > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> [7] > >> >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> [8] > https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> [9] > https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> -- > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards > >> >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> Email: > >> >> > >>> chenmin...@apache.org > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@doris.apache.org > >> >> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@doris.apache.org > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@doris.apache.org > >> >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@doris.apache.org > >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@doris.apache.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@doris.apache.org >
